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Old 10-06-2009, 08:55 PM   #1
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random number


What is the most random number?
 
Old 10-06-2009, 09:05 PM   #2
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how about 83826941
 
Old 10-06-2009, 09:09 PM   #3
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I don't know, that's kind of random. I guess. I think the most random number is 7.6
 
Old 10-06-2009, 10:29 PM   #4
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one is most random, followed by two.
 
Old 10-07-2009, 01:51 AM   #5
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~~43~~
 
Old 10-07-2009, 04:08 AM   #6
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3764326870778854476543326689986655778300653123757995643245886634123456754533276543467832089800457853 308742215468083.
 
Old 10-07-2009, 04:17 AM   #7
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here are some answers: choose the one that you like best, or that amuses you or something:

-Imagine that there is a number n that is more random than other numbers. This makes n stand out from other numbers, which makes it less random than all the other numbers. Ergo, there can be no number that is more random than the others.

-You don't say what you mean by a number; did you mean an integer, or something else?

-There are no random numbers; there are only random processes for selecting numbers.

It is well known that deep into irrational numbers, there are sequences that pass the tests for randomness. Such numbers (and many others) have distributions that have suitable distributions, but if you always use the same offset into the series, you'll always get the same number. This probably wasn't what you set out wanting to do.

-You may decide that, for example, the number 42 isn't very random. So, if you have the sequence of numbers, 1 to 100 and you wanted a random number, what are you going to do? remove 42 from that list? Then 0, then 13? And, 66 that doesn't look all that random...and all the other numbers with repeated digits...and perfect numbers and primes.

And so you end with a list to chose from which is significantly smaller than the original list, so any number chosen from that list has fewer possibilities and your attempt to make things 'look random' has resulted in less randomness (except in the popular sense of 'he's a random guy' for a flaky person who does stuff incompetently, which isn't mathematical randomness).

You just have to accept that some of the time a random process for choosing a number turns up a number that looks to have a special significance. A human, which can be regarded as a 'meaning-assigning-engine', may automatically jump to the 'ah 42 that has this special significance, and therefore that can't be random' but that's just nonsense. Some of the time, the random selection process turns up a number with a special significance to you, even if it is your date of birth in octal, and that's just it. You've done it often enough for this to happen and, if you think that every possible number selection has some special significance, then you'll only have to do it once to get into this state.
 
Old 10-07-2009, 04:20 AM   #8
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Mmm, very deeply fissolofikal there, salasi. My brain hertz.
 
Old 10-07-2009, 07:02 AM   #9
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Why do you insist on posting these stupid threads?
 
Old 10-07-2009, 09:07 AM   #10
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'First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three. No more. No less. Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then, lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.'

"1, 2, 5!"
"3 sir!"
"3!"
 
Old 10-07-2009, 09:19 AM   #11
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Quote:
-There are no random numbers; there are only random processes for selecting numbers.
I used to think that saying a random number was an oxymoron, because a single number couldn't be random. It is a series of numbers that has the characteristics of being random. However then I realized that a number is made up of bits. The number could be very large, composed of a large number of bits and the sequence of bits might come from a random source.
 
Old 10-07-2009, 10:12 AM   #12
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What is the most random topic for a new thread??
 
Old 10-07-2009, 12:21 PM   #13
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numbers are sequential, not random. Doi.
 
Old 10-07-2009, 09:13 PM   #14
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Nothing is random aside from the first action that sparked all other actions in the universe. We are all a product of some action acting on us and our equal and opposite reaction.
 
Old 10-07-2009, 09:36 PM   #15
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Nothing is random aside from the first action that sparked all other actions in the universe. We are all a product of some action acting on us and our equal and opposite reaction.
Quantum Mechanics disagrees.
 
  


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