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Old 05-29-2015, 10:12 AM   #1
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R.I.P.: YouTube succumbs to "The Borg"


Today, I went to YouTube to look up a video clip like I usually do. (In this case, I was looking for the clip from Top Gun where the captain says to Tom Cruise's character, "I'm not here to blow sunshine up your ass!"

And: I couldn't find it. My search produced a list of record albums. The video that I was looking for, was nowhere in three pages of "search results" which all consisted of... commercial albums and videos.

Furthermore, "iTunes" automatically started (even though I never asked it to), and it apparently was so-busy doing whatever it was doing that I had to force-quit it, to get it to stop.

In short: (a) YouTube no longer does what I wanted and expected it to do, a-n-d (b) it now seemed very-determined to do ... until I "pointed a loaded gun at iTunes and pulled the trigger" ... what "only the Suits had in mind." An action which I did not ask for, did not authorize, did not initiate, and (whatever it might have been) therefore will not permit.

Of course, "I will never visit YouTube again." (For safety, I've added a firewall-rule that expressly blocks this URL on my system.)

(I'm looking to find out "how Safari and/or YouTube caused iTunes to launch, such that it also would not obey a command to "Quit." If anyone knows, please tell me. OS/X Mavericks ...)

I think that we're seeing, more and more quickly, the intrusion of "the Suits" into "the Internet." But, the "two-plus-two" that they have not yet put-together is: just how much "free advertising" has been coming their way from "free-content sharing." And from vast amounts of user-contributed material, in an environment where users could contribute what they wanted (thereby allowing "the suits" to observe ...), instead of walking into yet-another "retail store" where both the set of products on the shelf and the presentation of those products was determined by committee.

Mind you, I don't think that "Internet content should be free." Rather, my point is that it would have been wiser to "leave YouTube well enough alone." Don't transform it into "a retail store." And, don't rob it of its content library. Let it continue selling for you, e.g. by providing "helpful links" to a store-of-your-choice wherein the content you've just previewed can be purchased.

I fear that "the Suits" are throwing out a baby with the bath water. That they really haven't taken the time to understand what "this world-wide thing that they now seek to commercialize" had evolved into, and how very delicate it actually is. I fear that they could seriously damage the goose that lays the golden eggs, and wind up staring at one another over now-empty dinner plates.

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Old 05-29-2015, 10:34 AM   #2
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R.I.P.: YouTube succumbs to "The Borg"

Yeah, I think I heard that too.


Surprise Surprise Surprise !


I knew it was about the money long ago. Just wait till Linux becomes the main stream . Then one can get their knickers in a twist.

What are all these posers doing on my lawn?
 
Old 05-29-2015, 01:04 PM   #3
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i do not have any issues on any of my vids
mind you i run "no-script", "ad block plus" , and "Ghoestry"

earth at night - city lights
3d render - watch in 1080 and FULL SCREEN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArOI4QCLMXA

or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaPXuzUJWGk

or the ISS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fzzqU-Ydfw

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Old 05-29-2015, 01:20 PM   #4
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Of course, "I will never visit YouTube again." (For safety, I've added a firewall-rule that expressly blocks this URL on my system.) <snip> throwing out a baby with the bath water
Just wondering?
 
Old 05-29-2015, 09:09 PM   #5
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Just out of curiosity, what search string did you use in your YouTube search? I'd be curious to see whether I could duplicate this.

I do know that my YouTube rss feeds stopped feeding sometime early in May, but I've been too lazy to try to troubleshoot it.
 
Old 05-30-2015, 07:29 AM   #6
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when i search for "top gun captain tom cruise" i get lots of relevant results, but when i search
"top gun captain tom cruise sunshine up your ass" i get what op described.
 
Old 05-30-2015, 09:44 PM   #7
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I tried searching YouTube for

Quote:
top gun captain tom cruise sunshine up your ass
I got a bunch of results I had no interest in following up, but I did not get a list of record albums and no applications on my computer behaved in an ill-mannered way. Of course, I did this on Slackware, so iTunes and Safari were not players.

I tried putting the search string in quotation marks, and got no results at all. As an aside, I use YouTube search frequently since my rss feeds went belly up, and I have not run into any problems finding relevant results.

I am not at all happy with some of the decisions Google has made about YouTube recently. AFAIC, "Don't be evil" is but a distant memory, but that's another story.

According to my local paper, YouTube looks to bring in about $4.3 billion in ad sales this year, and Google seems determined to milk as much cash out of that cow as possible.
 
Old 05-31-2015, 05:37 AM   #8
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I am not at all happy with some of the decisions Google has made about YouTube recently.
Nor am I. Since their recent 'upgrading' exercise, I have been having problems with it, to such an extent that I hardly ever go there any more, so they have reduced their revenue by at least one more 'viewer'!
 
Old 05-31-2015, 06:08 AM   #9
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I find that if I enable scripts form Google I always get inferior quality HTML5 video (usually 480 lines at the most) so I've to ensure that NoScript blocks Google by default which is annoying and even used to cause problems with this site though Jeremy fixed that very quickly.
Google also seem to have messed around with settings so that clients can't cache as much as they used to be able to but I have seen that for a while -- ever since they bought YouTube.
As I have pointed out in another thread on this site -- having a motto "Don't be evil" is like me having a motto "Don't beat up old people and steal their money" -- if it has to be said then there is obviously a problem.
 
Old 06-02-2015, 05:43 PM   #10
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I frankly cannot think of anything that would kill that "$4 billion(!) dollar cow" faster than causing the site to suddenly fail in its essential purpose.
 
Old 06-03-2015, 11:41 PM   #11
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It's strange considering it's from Google. But Youtube's search has ALWAYS sucked. Useless sorting. No filtering. Simply sucks.
 
  


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