LinuxQuestions.org
Support LQ: Use code LQ3 and save $3 on Domain Registration
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Non-*NIX Forums > General
User Name
Password
General This forum is for non-technical general discussion which can include both Linux and non-Linux topics. Have fun!

Notices

View Poll Results: What caused the power outage?
Lightning (sounds like "Pockets of swamp gas" or "A weather balloon" to me..) 3 9.68%
Animal (squirrel, bird, beaver, etc) 4 12.90%
Human Failure 5 16.13%
Machine Failure 9 29.03%
Lovesan 4 12.90%
Act Of God 0 0%
Terrorists 0 0%
None of the avove 6 19.35%
Voters: 31. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Search this Thread
Old 08-16-2003, 01:26 PM   #16
bigjohn
Senior Member
 
Registered: Jun 2002
Location: UK - South Coast.
Distribution: Ubuntu (usually the latest....)
Posts: 2,672
Blog Entries: 9

Rep: Reputation: 45

Rubbish.

All we "non-US" types KNOW.


ALIENS (from the planet Zarg)



regards

John
 
Old 08-16-2003, 01:35 PM   #17
aizkorri
Member
 
Registered: Feb 2002
Location: Basque Country
Distribution: Fedora 14, Ubuntu 11.10
Posts: 425
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: 36
gremblins, they are here again...
 
Old 08-16-2003, 01:52 PM   #18
320mb
Senior Member
 
Registered: Nov 2002
Location: pikes peak
Distribution: Slackware, LFS
Posts: 2,577

Rep: Reputation: 47
MIB........men in black

I'd say the military was testing a "new energy weapon"
and the gov't can't prove they were'nt lest the cat get
let out of the bag. If we were to use this on say ....China or N. Korea.......yep we would be the only Super Power left.......
 
Old 08-16-2003, 02:00 PM   #19
matador
Member
 
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: sweden
Distribution: gentoo @home, RH @ school
Posts: 107

Rep: Reputation: 15
ECONOMISTS! They caused the Columbia accident so they most probably caused this as well but that won't be in the papers. The papers will state that it was the engineers fucking up and not mention that the engineers had a knife on their necks by some MBA type.
 
Old 08-16-2003, 03:12 PM   #20
synaptical
Senior Member
 
Registered: Jun 2003
Distribution: Mint 13/15, CentOS 6.4
Posts: 2,020

Rep: Reputation: 46
"it can only be attributable to human error."



</hal>

even if the direct cause was machine/grid failure, imho it still comes down to humans not upgrading or maintaining the system properly (or otherwise doing something dumb ).
 
Old 08-16-2003, 05:50 PM   #21
notslim
Member
 
Registered: Aug 2003
Distribution: RH9
Posts: 63

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 15
my first 2-page thread!
 
Old 08-16-2003, 06:37 PM   #22
Mathieu
Senior Member
 
Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Distribution: RedHat, Fedora, CentOS, SUSE
Posts: 1,403

Rep: Reputation: 46
Quote:
Originally posted by notslim
my first 2-page thread!
Congratulations.
 
Old 08-16-2003, 06:47 PM   #23
matador
Member
 
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: sweden
Distribution: gentoo @home, RH @ school
Posts: 107

Rep: Reputation: 15
Quote:
Originally posted by notslim
my first 2-page thread!
FUCKIN EY!!
 
Old 08-16-2003, 07:20 PM   #24
KneeLess
Member
 
Registered: May 2003
Distribution: Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 Sid, OpenBSD 3.5
Posts: 190

Rep: Reputation: 30
Quote:
Originally posted by matador
F*** IN EY!!
Cursing = bad for your teeth.

It was those damned terrimals. Those little girls think those little bunny rabbits are cute. But look what happened in Monty Python and the Holy Grail! That, my friends, was a terrimal.
 
Old 08-16-2003, 08:41 PM   #25
sk8guitar
Member
 
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: DC
Distribution: mandrake 9.1
Posts: 415

Rep: Reputation: 30
how far did the outtage go? i'm in maryland and i didn't get hit by it
 
Old 08-16-2003, 08:49 PM   #26
js_530
Member
 
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 162

Rep: Reputation: 30
It probally was machine error, but I'd like to say some stupid terrimal did it before the toxic gas was in place . I know that a few powerplants run on windows. I hope none of the nuclear powerplants run on windows. If they did, US would be blown to a pulp by now.
 
Old 08-16-2003, 09:08 PM   #27
Mathieu
Senior Member
 
Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Distribution: RedHat, Fedora, CentOS, SUSE
Posts: 1,403

Rep: Reputation: 46
Quote:
how far did the outtage go? i'm in maryland and i didn't get hit by it
6 states in the US and one canadian province.
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/maps/...t.exclude.html
 
Old 08-27-2003, 10:23 AM   #28
synaptical
Senior Member
 
Registered: Jun 2003
Distribution: Mint 13/15, CentOS 6.4
Posts: 2,020

Rep: Reputation: 46
Human Error Likely Cause of Blackout, Timeline Says
Aug 27, 2003

By ANDREW C. REVKIN and RICHARD PÉREZ-PEÑA The New York Times

Investigators of North America's biggest blackout say all signs from a nearly completed timeline point to human errors in the early stages in Ohio on Aug. 14 as the cause of the cascade into darkness.

They have nearly finished assembling a second-by-second chronology composed of millions of bits of data collected from computers, voice recorders and hundreds of sensors scattered from Detroit through Canada into New York, officials said.
...
"We think we have the timeline nailed pretty well," said Donald M. Benjamin, vice president of the North American Electric Reliability Council, the industry group created after the 1965 blackout to maintain electricity flows.

"It's down to the second in terms of what happens, which transmission paths opened, when areas became isolated," Mr. Benjamin said. "It provides a good understanding of how the power flows."

But an expert from the federal government taking part in the investigation was much more definitive about a probable cause, saying all the data pointed to mistakes by people in the event's earliest stages.

The crucial missteps, a federal investigator working on the analysis said last night, appear to have occurred in the handling of an hourlong sequence of line failures and plant shutdowns preceding the full-blown blackout, which swept parts of eight states and eastern Canada starting around 4:10 p.m. on Aug. 14.

"Had all of the existing policies been followed, this would not have developed into a cascading event," the investigator said. "What we see are institutional breakdowns, not a breakdown of the system itself."

He and other investigators declined to discuss details, but others involved in the investigation said the timeline essentially matched independent analyses done recently by several grid experts and utilities.
 
Old 08-27-2003, 02:01 PM   #29
rmartine
Member
 
Registered: Dec 2002
Location: San Luis Obispo, CA
Distribution: Fedora Core 3
Posts: 618

Rep: Reputation: 30
Nope... it's a giant conspiracy.

It was really the gas companies.

They discovered that citizens of New York and other such cities were planning massive gasoline protests and burning down every Shell station they could find. To squash the revolts, they decided to kill the power in strategically marked cities.

It's them... they know we are tired of being exploited and conveniently near Labor Day. Maybe your city is next....

 
Old 08-28-2003, 01:38 AM   #30
Shade
Senior Member
 
Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Burke, VA
Distribution: RHEL, Slackware, Ubuntu, Fedora
Posts: 1,418
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: 46
Micawave?

I've got a microwave, but never heard of one of these strange, micawaves...

(just razzing because you mispelled it about 5 times in your post...)

-Shade
 
  


Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
10.1 some errors after power outage future assassin Slackware 3 11-04-2005 05:33 PM
RAID 5 after Power outage RabidSquirrel Linux - Hardware 3 08-02-2005 06:46 PM
power outage jbzy3000 Linux - General 2 02-24-2005 09:11 PM
Power Outage horror Hampster Mandriva 5 01-13-2005 08:38 PM
Reboot after power outage oigeli Linux - General 1 12-02-2004 07:10 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:26 PM.

Main Menu
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
identi.ca: @linuxquestions
Facebook: linuxquestions Google+: linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration