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Old 11-10-2007, 04:34 AM   #1
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Net Neutrality - something every body here should care about


I just stumbled upon the subject. What is going on here. Why haven't I heard of this.
The european media is completely ignoring this. Though it seems fairly important.
http://www.savetheinternet.com/=faq
 
Old 11-10-2007, 05:03 AM   #2
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What does it look like? Increasingly fascist telcos and multimedia companies are trying to get the US Gov't to establish policies that will let them dictate what goes through the internet. You haven't heard about it because you haven't been paying attention.

You want to see freedom die overnight? Let ANYONE at all gain control of the communications media and control of what communications are allowed.
 
Old 11-10-2007, 05:53 AM   #3
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You haven't heard about it because you haven't been paying attention.
No, he hasn't heard about this because he lives in a place where net neutrality is not a problem because his country is being democratically run by a properly elected non-dictator.

What I want to know is this: How does something like "net neutrality" become a problem in a country which is supposed to represent the pinnacle of liberty and democracy?
 
Old 11-10-2007, 11:03 AM   #4
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What I want to know is this: How does something like "net neutrality" become a problem in a country which is supposed to represent the pinnacle of liberty and democracy?
It is happening because the US Republic is falling. Right now, it is falling. What will replace it? I'm not sure. We have insane totalitarians on the Left, and classical fascists on the Right. The voices of individual liberty in the US are progressively being silenced or ignored.

At one time, this nation is showing increasing totalitarianism as the "thought police" work to suppress free speech and free enquiry (manifesting throughout the government school system and the university system, through increasing components of civil law, and throughout the entire domain of so-called "family law"), and increasing fascism as corporations increasingly are in bed with gov't to make corporate policy into public policy (net neutrality fight is only one such).

I have thought about emigrating to Australia, but the Leftist totalitarians are on the march there too. Not sure about the fascists.

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Old 11-10-2007, 05:12 PM   #5
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I have thought about emigrating to Australia, but the Leftist totalitarians are on the march there too. Not sure about the fascists.
Sometimes it's hard to tell who is worse, the fascists or the communists.
 
Old 11-10-2007, 05:27 PM   #6
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I have thought about emigrating to Australia, but the Leftist totalitarians are on the march there too. Not sure about the fascists.
Leftists (if you can all them that now - the lines are quite blurry these days) are on the march here because the fascists have been in power for too long. Our idiot has followed yours with some OTT anti-terror legislation, also doing away with habeas corpus and the like. Not to mention what he has done to the workers of this country.
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Sometimes it's hard to tell who is worse, the fascists or the communists.
Maybe we need another option.

Note to the USA: If he doesn't become president next year, please send Ron Paul over here.
 
Old 11-11-2007, 04:07 PM   #7
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This is one of those discussions that makes me glad I'm 63 and on my way out. Perish the thought that I was young and had to very seriously consider finding another country to live in.

If Dr. Ron Paul does not become our next President I fear the U.S.A. is surely doomed.
 
Old 11-11-2007, 06:49 PM   #8
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I was just doing some research on Ron Paul. I think he is exactly who we need. Whether you're liberal, conservative, or even drunk . . . well, I don't know about you I guess, but I'm ready for a little less government intrusion into every single stinking aspect of my life. And Ron Paul appears to have the guts to fix a few things.
 
Old 11-11-2007, 08:23 PM   #9
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In Washington D.C. he is called Dr. No because he does not talk to any lobbyists.

If you saw the movie V for Vendetta the " hero " was always talking about the fifth of November.

On the fifth of November 2007 an awful lot of ordinary people gave a few million dollars in donations to the Ron Paul campaign and his campaign office had nothing at all to do with it.

Lots of people see Dr. Paul as the last hope to restore the vision of our founding fathers to the actual operations our our government.

What exists today is not the way things are supposed to be.
 
Old 11-11-2007, 11:56 PM   #10
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I think that the fifth of november has its roots in that guy, I forget his name, that tried to blow up some place in England a few centuries back. He was a Catholic that didn't like the Protestant government, or was he a Protestant who didn't like the Catholic government? I suppose it's as easy as search wikipedia but I'm lazy right now That movie vendetta was inspired by that event I think.
 
Old 11-12-2007, 01:52 AM   #11
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And the connection is? Do you seriously think that one candidate or the other is making a difference. It's been going back and forth between Democrats and Republicans, and from an outside view, I don't see a big difference. There are religious fanatics on both sides.

It's the same thing every 4 years. Both sides scream at each other over nothing. I think the only candidate that anyone in his right mind could have voted for in the past was Nader, and I'm not even sure if he ran last time - there was so little coverage.
I'm telling you if you would present all 3 parties with equal exposure anywhere in europe, Nader would win almost uncontested.

I'm just saying don't get your hopes up for change. Obama... Paul... I think it comes down to whether you like pink or brown better.

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Old 11-12-2007, 02:00 AM   #12
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I like Bill Hicks's theory that after the election they invite the President into a big smoke filled room with all the people who really run the country. They show him a subverter film which shows an angle of the Kennedy assassination that you've never seen before.
"Any Questions?"
"Just what my agenda is."
 
Old 11-12-2007, 04:37 AM   #13
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I've an idea to fix this "freedom" thing in a very simple way. When I think about America, I think automatically about freedom. And that is the way many sees the whole country too. All you have to do is to create a new slogan, which still talks about freedom, but slightly different. Something like this:

Quote:
USA - Land of the free*

*Some restrictions apply. Void where prohibited
That would do the trick
 
Old 11-12-2007, 04:40 AM   #14
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My spelling might be incorrect but I think his name was Guy Fawkes.

In our last Presidential election we had a choise between two candidates that both belong to the same " Yale society " ( skull and bones ). That was a not a choise but a " fix ".

It is very true that the same " monied interests " control most of this country's media and most of this country's polititians; however Dr. Paul is not under their control and that is why he is so appealing to so many types of different people throughout the U.S.A.

Dr. Paul has a very long history of adhering to our constitution as it was intended to be adhered to by its creators.

If it wasn't for the freedom of the Internet, Dr Paul's record and candidacy would never ever have been heard of.
 
Old 11-12-2007, 08:45 AM   #15
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Guy Fawkes

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I think that the fifth of november has its roots in that guy, I forget his name, that tried to blow up some place in England a few centuries back.
V For Vendetta was an interesting movie with a Guy Fawkes theme. Not a bad flick, though the author of the original graphic novel disavowed it.

I particularly enjoy Guy Fawkes night since it involves building a really large bonfire.
 
  


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