I want to know from actual programmers if they think highly of Zuckerberg's hacking skills.

I'm not a programmer, but Zuckerberg's skill, like Steve Job's, is marketing.

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Only hacking skills I see is financial back door deals bilking retirees. Glad I keep my funds close.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/fin...rop-2012-05-23

I don't qualify, but:

I'd have put the, down as business and entrepreneurship. And there, you have to keep in mind his age, so I'd be prepared to go for 'on business and entrepreneurship he has done better than almost all of hos peer group would have done'. But, you could argue that that hasn't said a lot.

Frankly, "the entire 'Facebook thing'" has always smelled to this old-phart as a pure sucker play. This so-called "publicly traded company" is IMHO not intended to last. (Whoever heard of a multi-billion dollar (sic...) company that is majority-owned by one young punk who's barely graduated from acne? Come to think of it, whoever heard of a publicly traded company that is majority-owned by anyone?) The people who dumped lots of money into it now have their money out. Therefore, do they really care what happens now? Why should they?

Facebook might be known to a large number of people, but not a single one of them have any skin in the game. I watched the various "rumors" that Facebook was going to start to charge for its service, and I personally never doubted that those "rumors" were serious marketing-probes, each one of which had instantaneous and serious responses. "No one anywhere wants to pay a solitary dime for this." Therefore, what do you do? You set a high price, you sell-out all your shares at that high price, and you play Rhett Butler to all of them with regard to the fact that they all just got left holding a gigantic douche-bag.

But, y'know... "it's a market, and nobody wins (except us)." You're a sucker and you were summarily suckered. Tell your 'friends' all about it while you watch our advertisements.

My vote is NO! facebook is a waste of time with no value in it. It is an internet marketer's playground for scamming,spamming and phishing people.

He got where he is by having no morals or conscience.
I'm not saying he's without any skill and he certainly has business acumen, but he's successful because his goal was to become rich and shaft as many people as possible regardless of the consequences.
I am constantly amazed that people sign up to his site despite him calling his unpaid content creators/marketers dumb f***s.

I can see why you would say that, I disagree. *edit- I disagree in that think that there are lots of 'true believers' of various stripes and types that think that facebook as a company will last long term, and niot only last, but make lots of money. How? I'm not too sure. The facebook IPO seems to be brand centric, not based on any long term projections or plans.

The whole facebook thing is emblematic of the IMO illogical hopes of various players in the ecconomic sphere. A company that doesnt make anything, doesnt really 'own' anything apart from users data is worth HOW much? 15 billion+? That is a joke. Just because its a joke to me doesnt mean that various powerful and influential people would agree. It fits in with the whole 'IP is everything, we own IP, we own everything...it doesnt matter that the we dont make anything much' attitude of various internalional corporations and national governments.

The facebook IPO fits in perfectly with that worldview. Even if there are huge risks-

http://articles.marketwatch.com/2012...my-black-swans

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@ frankbell
dude you stole my sig

Hardly. Neither Apple nor Microsoft were ever dominated by any one single stockholder throughout their entire existence, even though both companies heavily leveraged the public notion of "one whiz kid in his garage" in most of their self-promotion campaigns.

Drat. I though it was an original. Can I keep it?

Regarding Facebook, this came across my screen today: http://www.boston.com/business/techn...?p1=News_links

I'm not out anything by you using my sig

face book is nothing more than another way to get people to look at advertisements
as such there is no way of increasing it's value to advertisers beyond the point that
the advertisements drive away users and it has just about reached that point
just a small push for more profits will collapse the user base destroying the the value
of face book to it's advertisers

I have a face book account
I can't justify the effort of logging on for me there is nothing useful there
I can do any thing by other means that I can do on face book in a less public manner

It will be really interesting when Facebook dries up and blows away the way that every other ridiculous web site of its sort does.

Eventually, something else pops up, and overnight it becomes completely irrelevant.

In this case, though, the media will want to make a huge story out of it. "The Rise and Fall of Facebook" ... It will be treated as if it were some new, different phenomenon.

If I didn't use Facebook to publicize my personal blog, I would have deleted my data and "deactivated" my account long ago.

Another interesting FB news story came along today:

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/fac...380-2012-05-25

Thanks for the siggy.