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Old 04-18-2012, 06:31 PM   #1
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Go troll Mark Zuckerberg about CISPA


Hi,

in case you're not up to date , read and sign the avaaz petition:
the short version , big business is in league with the US Govt , and they are after your dirty little online secrets...AGAIN !
http://www.avaaz.org/en/stop_cispa_c...te_global/?tta

also after you've signed , don't forget to send mark zuckerberg this message
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Hi Mark,

Please DROP CISPA or risk closing my facebook account!

thanks for reading
if you've second thoughts just remember that those folks are throwing all those "privacy agreements" against the wall.
now i reckon , they have been doing this off record for years since the patriot act , however , now they have the balls to get explicit about it!

so if they are gonna sell us out , then let's make their lives as miserable as possible ... that will teach them !

okay now you can go and troll somebody for good purposes
 
Old 04-18-2012, 11:51 PM   #2
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Like if he would care D:
 
Old 04-19-2012, 12:08 AM   #3
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Most individuals who join these "social networking sites" join because they want to network and be popular and part of the group. Those people who would care to withdraw (be inactive) - after initially participating in these sites - would be in a pitiful minority.
 
Old 04-19-2012, 02:49 AM   #4
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I used Orkut for sometime and when it started to get over the head, I closed the account. Now I am going to do the same with Facebook. Not that I am active on FB but I am still there with all my friends there. Its a nice to way keep in touch with all the people around. And if I close down FB account, I am sure I am going to be at receiving end from lot of peers.
And I am also planning to slowly migrate all my gmail accounts to some other email service. And if I am unable to find a good email service, I reckon I would not back down and may be have my own email server and domain. I am fine with a small server with just an account for me and my wife. Dont need to techie. I dont even need a server that has to be up 24x7 just for my needs. My gmail accounts go unchecked for days together anyways.
 
Old 04-20-2012, 11:29 AM   #5
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Like if he would care D:
Trust me he will when he sees the responses from his users
we've been beaten SOPA , PIPA and ACTA and now we will dispatch CISPA ...we can do it !

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Most individuals who join these "social networking sites" join because they want to network and be popular and part of the group.those people who would care to withdraw (be inactive) - after initially participating in these sites - would be in a pitiful minority.
well it's not about whether you're active or inactive on facebook , it's about your (plural) privacy and security !
in fact , those who are the most active would be the most pissed about this so let's get the word out...


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And if I close down FB account, I am sure I am going to be at receiving end from lot of peers
i guess you're definitely underestimating the power of viral social networking , it's in fact so powerful that you could eventually turn it against its maker , and that's what we need to do !

just post that avaaz petition on your FB status , you can also share the template message to mark zuckerberg with your friends , implying that they should do the same (i.e sending the message to him)

and see who is gonna receive what on whose end !

in closing :
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Evil Prevails When Good Men do Nothing.

Edmund Burke
regards
 
Old 04-29-2012, 08:28 AM   #6
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Why single out MArk Zuckerberg? Is it because he was raised in a particular religion but has since described himself as an atheist? (As per the wikepedia page on him).

OK
 
Old 04-30-2012, 01:20 AM   #7
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And not just that, that Mr Mark is making millions out of your information. He must actually be doing it even right now. Only you got to know it through that Avaaz. And the people who already post vast amount of personal information on facebook without even realizing the effects. And when facebook is another business, you can be sure they will do anything to make money. And if you want to go against Facebook, you need really a vast amount of users in your side to make some substantial mark. And most of the facebook users are not even concerned. They dont care. They put pictures for all to see. So it does not make much difference for them.
 
Old 04-30-2012, 02:12 AM   #8
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People join sites like Facebook knowing full well their information is no longer theirs alone. It is like anything on the internet once it is up it is free for all to use. Employers use Facebook to cull prospective employees and have been doing so for years. If employers can do it why not governments?

It is "user beware". In other words be more careful if you don't want people knowing what you are doing.
 
Old 04-30-2012, 02:57 AM   #9
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People join sites like Facebook knowing full well their information is no longer theirs alone.
Hardly. I'm vocally anti-facebook, and various other telco/information compaines. In my expereince, apart from a few tech savvy people, most users have no idea how much information is viewable (and viewed/datamined), or how much datamining goes on.....let alone the sort of 'user agreements' they are 'signing' when they use many online sevices.

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It is like anything on the internet once it is up it is free for all to use.
Just becasuse its online does not mean 'its free for all to use'. People might use a lot of information/data/audio/video/visual material on the internet like that, but in many cases they are breaking copyright.

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Employers use Facebook to cull prospective employees and have been doing so for years. If employers can do it why not governments?
Why should employers be able to do that? CISPA is hardly employers vetting employees, and even making that comparison is IMO misleading.

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the short version , big business is in league with the US Govt
Shorter version- the US governemnt is big businesses minion (or b*tch is you want to alliterate).

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i guess you're definitely underestimating the power of viral social networking , it's in fact so powerful that you could eventually turn it against its maker , and that's what we need to do !
Zuckerberg isnt going to care.

Maybe if everybody or a large % of facebook users raced off to google+, or back to myspace, or something else, there could be a minor change in facebook policy...but its not going to stop them supporting CISPA (and even though AFAIK google hasnt officaly stated of position on CISPA, I'm fall off my wall if they dont support it).

Even if facebook didnt make money from datamining, and even if zuckerberg wasnt a leech who hides beind 'everything should be open', they would support it for political reasons.
 
Old 04-30-2012, 04:01 AM   #10
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Hardly. I'm vocally anti-facebook, and various other telco/information compaines. In my expereince, apart from a few tech savvy people, most users have no idea how much information is viewable (and viewed/datamined), or how much datamining goes on.....let alone the sort of 'user agreements' they are 'signing' when they use many online sevices.
I'm anti-facebook etc as well. So much so that when an Anthropology group I was part of went to Facebook I stopped taking part because I wouldn't join facebook. Anyway that is beside the point. Unless you have a been in a complete media blackout you must have some idea that what you put up on these sites is usable and/or viewable by many others. Seriously, and I mean with with all due respect to those who have no idea, unless you are a complete thick head the media campaigns (in Australia at least) aimed at teens and parents of teens and family members of teens (i.e. parents, aunts/uncles, grandparents, etc) you must have some idea what they and others can do with the information people put online.

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Just becasuse its online does not mean 'its free for all to use'. People might use a lot of information/data/audio/video/visual material on the internet like that, but in many cases they are breaking copyright.
Ok, bad choice of words, but that does not mean people do not use information they get online just because they saw it online. Yes there are copyright issues with many things that are online but what personal details can be copyrighted when you post them on a site like Facebook?

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Why should employers be able to do that?
Whether they should or shouldn't is neither here nor there, the fact is they can and do. Google employers checking facebook.
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CISPA is hardly employers vetting employees, and even making that comparison is IMO misleading.
The comparison is not misleading at all, think about it for a a minute. Employers have a vested interest in information, governments have a vested interest as well especially after events like 9/11, the 2 Bali attacks etc. I'm not saying what they want to do is the right thing but I can imagine the uproar if it is found that a potential problem could have been averted if they had access to these things.
 
  


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