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And systemd is a hard dependency of GNOME, right? (What a coincidence!) This is why Debian changed the init system: because desktop environments are beginning to require it.
And now GNOME wants my money? LOL, ask Red Hat. You can give your money to GNOME if you want to. I will rather buy something from Groupon to support them financially, whatever they sell.
Last edited by Soderlund; 11-11-2014 at 08:41 AM.
Reason: typo
At first I thought your comments were very twisted, as gnome has given so much to the open source community, while the groupon corporation gives nothing, and is trying to steal the GNOME name.
But, I didn't know about systemd.
I'm now strongly against it. It threatens linux security, stability and openness. I will definitely boycott any distro that uses systemd. http://boycottsystemd.org/
I think GNOME 3 sucks anyway. I like Mate (based on GNOME 2)
I posted this, more a matter of principle of wanting to support GNOME as an open source project that Groupon was trying to trample on.
Here is an extremely long winded thread that mostly discusses issues with systemd. The link is to my last comment on the matter. Linus Torvalds vs Kay Sievers
I'm not totally against systemd anymore. Now my attitude is more along the lines of "tolerate, watch and see... and maybe try if I need it's features or to run Jessie etc.". I'll probably avoid it while it's easy to do so, though.
Gnome and Red Hat do indeed seem to be intertwined, but I think it's a bit of an overstatement to call Gnome a "Red Hat Project" ("Red Hat-influenced project" might have been a bit more accurate). I find SystemD annoying (and its creator's arrogance even more annoying), but that's not going to stop me from using Gedit or Totem, which are legitimate FOSS projects. (Even though I won't use the Gnome desktop on a bet. I have tried it and it doesn't work for me, no, not one bit--I do like me my multiple overlapping application windows.)
Furthermore, I don't think Red Hat's or Gnome's support of SystemD is in any way related to Gnome's desiring to protect its own legitimate trademarks from infringement by a for-profit marketing outfit whose business model is bamboozling customers into buying stuff they didn't realize they wanted or needed until they got Groupon-ed.
In an update to the link that Lop3 posted, Gnome has announced that Groupon is backing off.
There are certain things in this world that are worth getting "all riled up about." And maybe that are worth spending $80,000 on. However, this is not one of them.
There are certain things in this world that are worth getting "all riled up about." And maybe that are worth spending $80,000 on. However, this is not one of them.
I'm inclined to disagree, not because I have any particular love of Gnome as a product, but because a license or trademark that is not defended is no trademark at all. Defending a trademark is sort of a condition of having and keeping one. The FOSS community needs to be as willing to protect its trademarks as non-FOSS companies are.
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