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Old 11-11-2014, 06:35 AM   #1
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Exclamation Boycott Groupon - How can we stop Groupon


The FOSS movement needs to show that it will not tolerate large corporations abusing FOS software and trademarks.

The GNOME foundation needs $80,000 just to defend against 10 out of groupon's 28 bogus trademark applications.

http://www.gnome.org/groupon/

Let's support our open source commuinity

For those of us who can donate, we should.

For those of who can only offer time, let's make our own effort to boycott groupon, and encourage others to do so.

Be sure to raise this issue in your GNU/Linux / Open Source community.
I've noticed there is no Boycott Groupon facebook group, yet.

For those who use Groupon regularly, it might be time to try alternatives. Let's divert business away from groupon.

These are very similar to groupon
* LivingSocial
* Tippr
* AmazonLocal
* Seize the Deal
* HomeRun

Some others
* Facebook Offers
* Yipit
* ScoutMob
* Fab
* Savored
* Thrillist Rewards
* Refinery29
* Woot
* Bloomspot
* Travelzoo Local Deals
* SpaFinder

Now I've put in at least 15 minutes into doing something for our open source community. What will you do?

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Old 11-11-2014, 08:32 AM   #2
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Isn't GNOME a Red Hat project?

And systemd is a hard dependency of GNOME, right? (What a coincidence!) This is why Debian changed the init system: because desktop environments are beginning to require it.

And now GNOME wants my money? LOL, ask Red Hat. You can give your money to GNOME if you want to. I will rather buy something from Groupon to support them financially, whatever they sell.

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Old 11-11-2014, 04:21 PM   #3
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Wow, okay.

At first I thought your comments were very twisted, as gnome has given so much to the open source community, while the groupon corporation gives nothing, and is trying to steal the GNOME name.

But, I didn't know about systemd.
I'm now strongly against it. It threatens linux security, stability and openness. I will definitely boycott any distro that uses systemd.
http://boycottsystemd.org/

I think GNOME 3 sucks anyway. I like Mate (based on GNOME 2)
I posted this, more a matter of principle of wanting to support GNOME as an open source project that Groupon was trying to trample on.

Groupon has backed down actually, as of yesterday
http://www.gnome.org/news/2014/11/gr...-product-name/

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Old 11-11-2014, 04:46 PM   #4
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Good to see sanity has prevailed.

It's funny, I had heard of groupon prior to this but I did not know what they actually did. Now I know. But not interested enough to research further.
 
Old 11-12-2014, 06:13 AM   #5
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Here is an extremely long winded thread that mostly discusses issues with systemd. The link is to my last comment on the matter.
Linus Torvalds vs Kay Sievers

I'm not totally against systemd anymore. Now my attitude is more along the lines of "tolerate, watch and see... and maybe try if I need it's features or to run Jessie etc.". I'll probably avoid it while it's easy to do so, though.

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Old 11-12-2014, 08:42 PM   #6
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Gnome and Red Hat do indeed seem to be intertwined, but I think it's a bit of an overstatement to call Gnome a "Red Hat Project" ("Red Hat-influenced project" might have been a bit more accurate). I find SystemD annoying (and its creator's arrogance even more annoying), but that's not going to stop me from using Gedit or Totem, which are legitimate FOSS projects. (Even though I won't use the Gnome desktop on a bet. I have tried it and it doesn't work for me, no, not one bit--I do like me my multiple overlapping application windows.)

Furthermore, I don't think Red Hat's or Gnome's support of SystemD is in any way related to Gnome's desiring to protect its own legitimate trademarks from infringement by a for-profit marketing outfit whose business model is bamboozling customers into buying stuff they didn't realize they wanted or needed until they got Groupon-ed.

In an update to the link that Lop3 posted, Gnome has announced that Groupon is backing off.

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Old 11-13-2014, 07:08 AM   #7
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There are certain things in this world that are worth getting "all riled up about." And maybe that are worth spending $80,000 on. However, this is not one of them.
 
Old 11-13-2014, 08:05 PM   #8
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There are certain things in this world that are worth getting "all riled up about." And maybe that are worth spending $80,000 on. However, this is not one of them.
I'm inclined to disagree, not because I have any particular love of Gnome as a product, but because a license or trademark that is not defended is no trademark at all. Defending a trademark is sort of a condition of having and keeping one. The FOSS community needs to be as willing to protect its trademarks as non-FOSS companies are.
 
  


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