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Old 04-06-2004, 08:20 PM   #16
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This is not right, it is not a war on terrorism, it is a war for profit. It is an imperalistic war which is not justified by any act of terrorism. Terrorism is a tactic, you cannot fight a tactic. There is nothing you can say or do which will stop a tactic, a tactic, is simply a tactic. You can have a war on all who oppose the imperialism of the US, but you cannot battle tactics. You can't fight ideas with bullets.

Violator, america is sitting back and watching sudan become the next rewanda. America is not a great country which aids other nations, it aids when it feels it is necessary. Rewanda was one of the most terrible acts in human history and as a result, I think Kofi Annan has lost any credibility on getting people to act. As has america. They have the audacity to go to Iraq for FREEDOM and yet they sit back and are watching genocide in Sudan.

And now the Kofi Annan and the US have the AUDACITY to TRY PEOPLE IN COURT for genocide???? If you ask me Kofi Annan and the US are just as guilty for sitting back and watching it happen.

Do not try to link 9/11 and Iraq and the Middle East, they are not related. What is related is the tragic loss of human life for no reason. 9/11 was a tradegy yes, I saw the towers fall. I was in New York at the time they fell. I was watching them fall. I feel pain and sorrow at the people who died, yet no war in Iraq or the Middle East is justifiable especially considering Bush planned the war BEFORE 9/11 happen. He ignored threats from Al Quaeda and terrorists and as a result, 9/11 happen. Then he has the audacity to claim to be anti-terrorist BECAUSE of 9/11? Lemme see here, he wont be against anything bad or wrong UNTIL something bad or wrong HAPPENS to Americans?

I believe the US is among the most hypocritical imperilistic nations ever, I am appalled at the loss of life which America brings upon itself. I am not talking of 9/11, I am talking of the ignorant wars which gets 18 year old kids killed, which fat republicans sit at home and talk about patriotism. Real patriotic, he was in Iraq for what? 2 Hours? Wowee. Talk about danger. Noone can call bush a patriot when he creates the Patriot act removing peoples personal freedoms. Because you have no chains on your hands, does not mean you are free.
 
Old 04-06-2004, 09:07 PM   #17
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Do not try to link 9/11 and Iraq and the Middle East, they are not related.

Hmm. I am sure that Bill Gates getting a pie in the face is even less related to any of the above issues. I would suggest we stay on topic here or this thread will be closed.
 
Old 04-06-2004, 09:30 PM   #18
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Originally posted by Megaman X
You can hurt a person not only physically, but morally, as they did with Bill. If he wanted, they could sue that jerk and even his great-grand children would be working after school to pay the suit. You know how much money uncle Bill has. But he was kind enough to do not take action against those idiots (I would)....
hahahahaha! do you really think uncle bill doesn't sue them 'cause his kind??? You're more naive then I thought. Yes, he has the right to sue everyone of them and if he wanted, all the guilty would be in jail in no time, BUT! everybody would say: "Ah! He's doing that only because he owns lots of money... Oh that dictator! It's all about the money!"
then uncle bill wisely don't do anything, "kindly forgive" the guys and what most of people will say? "Oh, he's so good, gives lots of money to the poor, get a pie on the face and doesn't do anything... what an angel!" And there he is, sitting over a big fat bag of money enjoying people's sympathy and still as rich as he was....
 
Old 04-06-2004, 09:51 PM   #19
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Thanks for backing me up LinuxLala mate!. Believe me, I'm not big fan of Microsoft either (Xbox maybe ), but the correct way of breaking their Empire is with class, knowledge and wisdom, not physical violence...
<off topic rant>Im an avid Xbox player but boy did they upset me with Music Mixer. Supposed to do all sorts of things but doesn't. Can't get karaoke songs from any other karaoke source cause of their special file type. Can't strip lyrics from songs as advertised. My main reason for getting it: They made it sound like a good way to play MP3's on Xbox because you can 'connect to a network and play songs from your PC' but in reality you have to use an annoying program (winxp only) to transfer the songs to the Xbox (I thought I would be able to browse the network for songs to play) and then they still don't play like MP3's you install from a CD because you have to have the Music Mixer going to play them. Why would they do that? DARN you MS </off topic rant>

Sorry, I've just been needing to get that off my chest.

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Old 04-07-2004, 01:20 AM   #20
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I cannot decide who I'd laugh more at, Brain Drop for trying to use Xbox for something else then play games (just like everybody else does, which is not the hole point of a console, it's TO PLAY GAMES) or frandalla, who hates Bill Gates because he is rich (which is just as silly as hating someone because they are poor, black, Muslim...) Thanks for the laugh guys
 
Old 04-07-2004, 04:49 AM   #21
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Ya well, you never thought what a pie in the face of one man can do

But, I can't stop wondering WHY PIE?? Why not, umm, ahem... , ummm... help me out guys... ummm, ya I got one, why not PIE

Cheers.

P.S. I am still against violence and assaulting somebody like this, not a good show man.
 
Old 04-07-2004, 10:05 AM   #22
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How did this conversation go from a pie in the face to terrorism. Lets get this thread back on topic or it will be closed.

Regards.
 
Old 04-07-2004, 02:43 PM   #23
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What are you guys talking about?
You're mixing things, there was no violence in this act!
Inform yourselves before talking... The guy who did this is quite an old belgian, a "professional" pier, he's no protestor, he did it for fun(probably doesn't even know anything about computers), and there was no way bill could have been hurt(He has a certain amount of experience)...
You need to chill.

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Godin is exceedingly scrupulous and exacting about the art of pieing. Although Godin and his gang do not bake their ammunition themselves ("we are very lazy," he explains), they buy only top-quality pies made from fine ingredients, ensuring that the filling and crust are light enough that they could cause no injury on impact. Godin believes that a pie should never be thrown: for a hit to be done properly, one must get close enough to the target to press the pie directly into the face without flinging it through midair. In addition, Godin says that the first five seconds after a pie attack can lay bare the victim's true inner character, according to his or her reaction. "Accurately delivered, a cream pie is an uncannily precise barometer of human nature," he has noted.
Regards.
http://www.parascope.com/mx/articles/godin.htm

By the way, I'm not trying to hurt anyone or start a flamewar... I'm adding info

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Old 04-07-2004, 05:39 PM   #24
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Just because we see the fact differently from you, that does not give you the right to tell us to chill No offense intended to you, we are all just expressing our point of views...
 
Old 04-07-2004, 05:56 PM   #25
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we are all just expressing our point of views...
Totally agree! But my point is that you can`t judge this without having all the facts...
See what I mean?
 
Old 04-07-2004, 07:10 PM   #26
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yep, I'm in the US (and hate it), and I'm 16 not 13, and worse has happened, even in the last 10 years millions died for no reason, thousands died in an act of self defense (US vs the world), and I'm only using there ( US government's) logic for that first part (well kinda),,

i don't considerate it violent when people die, its when people get hurt thats its violent (well, this is another funny topic, well say realy realy hurt,, like arms torn off, beaten, and stuff like that over a period of time... not hurt as in a pie to the face (unless the pie had parana in it ), i mean hurt as in bleeding (internal or extrenal).. then again i could almost give a rats ass about life/death, its all the same to me
where would you rather live? I'm not a big fan of the US government, but after Canda, the northern european countries , US is next on my list.
 
Old 04-07-2004, 09:57 PM   #27
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urm, if i had it my way id live in Antarctica under he ice, and play with the penguins, but then i cant use computers, plus from what i hear its not legal to be in Antarctica unless ur there for "scientific" reasons.

next would be Europe, somewhere nice and cold, with lots of trees

i stay away from japan, US, UK, and Canada cause of the epsilon project, never can know what else they might do....

but diffidently Antarctica as #1
 
Old 04-07-2004, 10:16 PM   #28
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SciYro Sounds like you wanna live in Norway/Sweden. So what was all that about pie now? Oh yeah, this is what I think, someone wanted to express his extreme anger to bill for the quality of his OS while also proving that bill is exposed to violent tactics. What a turn of events, considering that the release of win95 had people waiting outside stores, so I hear...
 
Old 04-07-2004, 10:37 PM   #29
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Originally posted by Capt_Caveman
Hmm. I am sure that Bill Gates getting a pie in the face is even less related to any of the above issues.
Heh, it most certainly isn't, since I saw the same clip of Bill getting pied back in, like, 1997 or so, I think. It was quite a while ago, whenever it was. Certainly WELL before 9/11.
 
Old 04-08-2004, 12:46 AM   #30
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yes, win95 was certainly something everyone i knew wanted it, to tell you the truth all i knew was it was supposed to be great (seeing as how the OS on the system was probably win3.1 (it only opened folders, once closed i couldn't get it back, reboot time , but a useful program was in there that came with the Packard bell computer we had, some 3d office place, you clicked on a object and could use it, i remember using that to make phone calls lol)

neways back from a long time ago,,, windows ever sense win95/98 has been getting worse and worse, from a good OS (well, good at the time, but it didn't have that 3d office!, (must learn programing... lol)), and into ME it just blew up, buggy, and then 2k!, and xp!, err!, just annoying!not only were useful features cut, but they added new onces (IE, media player, movie maker, etc), but the ones lost was just too much (cant boot into DOS mode from the boot menu), just plain annoying, esp the way its all set up in a way that requires the Internet and expects everyone to live in some home network were administrators are, (!!!!)...., well, cant say that linux is much different there, but from the start thats the way it was set up, and it also serves a purpose, unlike in windows 2k/xp (unless your in a network were there are administrators to handle your every "omg!, the start button vanished!" call, and them telling you "umm, its just hidden, take the mouse to the bottom of the screen, o wait, that doesn't work!, owell, reboot, ill put you in the help query, someone might be able to help you reboot in a year or so"

*sigh*, they made everyone hate them them selfs, all we did was get annoyed, get pissed, then took the M$ install disks to a shooting range
 
  


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