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Old 06-23-2023, 02:31 PM   #1
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Can't access fedoraforum.org

For the past few days, I can't access fedoraforum.org (using Firefox on Fedora - tried 2 different machines, 2 different releases of Fedora). I posted about this on physicsforums.org. Some members there can get to it, others can't. Any ideas about why I can't make the last hop?

mtr -c 10 -r -n fedoraforum.org shows the last hops as:



6.|-- 206.223.118.119 0.0% 10 71.4 69.7 67.5 71.4 1.1
7.|-- ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
8.|-- ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
9.|-- ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
10.|-- 192.99.146.125 0.0% 10 98.5 97.2 96.0 98.5 0.8
11.|-- 178.32.135.155 0.0% 10 935.3 409.3 96.0 935.3 325.1
12.|-- ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
 
Old 06-23-2023, 02:37 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by SteveFTC View Post
For the past few days, I can't access fedoraforum.org (using Firefox on Fedora - tried 2 different machines, 2 different releases of Fedora). I posted about this on physicsforums.org. Some members there can get to it, others can't. Any ideas about why I can't make the last hop?
Code:
mtr -c 10 -r -n fedoraforum.org shows the last hops as:
  6.|-- 206.223.118.119            0.0%    10   71.4  69.7  67.5  71.4   1.1
  7.|-- ???                       100.0    10    0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0
  8.|-- ???                       100.0    10    0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0
  9.|-- ???                       100.0    10    0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0
 10.|-- 192.99.146.125             0.0%    10   98.5  97.2  96.0  98.5   0.8
 11.|-- 178.32.135.155             0.0%    10  935.3 409.3  96.0 935.3 325.1
 12.|-- ???                       100.0    10    0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0
Not sure why physicsforums.org or LQ is the place to ask about the Fedora forum not working. Comes up on my machine under Firefox and Chrome. May want to ask some of those who can get to it to report a problem. The traceroute/mtr won't show some routers for good reason. A standard ping should be good enough for a website.
 
Old 06-23-2023, 03:23 PM   #3
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what do you get from
Code:
curl -LI https://fedoraforum.org/

ping -c1 fedoraforum.org

dig @8.8.8.8 fedoraforum.org
I can load the page in a browser. Traceroute dies with UDP or TCP packets.
Can you access the page on a different browser?
 
Old 06-23-2023, 05:18 PM   #4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TB0ne View Post
Not sure why physicsforums.org or LQ is the place to ask about the Fedora forum not working.
Is there a better place than LQ?


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Originally Posted by teckk View Post
what do you get from
Code:
curl -LI https://fedoraforum.org/

ping -c1 fedoraforum.org

dig @8.8.8.8 fedoraforum.org
I can load the page in a browser. Traceroute dies with UDP or TCP packets.
Can you access the page on a different browser?

Curl just hangs.

ping -c1 fedoraforum.org
PING fedoraforum.org (135.148.120.73) 56(84) bytes of data.

--- fedoraforum.org ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 0ms



dig @8.8.8.8 fedoraforum.org

; <<>> DiG 9.11.14-RedHat-9.11.14-2.fc30 <<>> @8.8.8.8 fedoraforum.org
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 2822
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;fedoraforum.org. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
fedoraforum.org. 14392 IN A 135.148.120.73

;; Query time: 74 msec
;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)
;; WHEN: Fri Jun 23 15:58:24 MDT 2023
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 60


I also can't access fedoraforum.org with midori. Don't have any browsers except Firefox and midori installed.
 
Old 06-23-2023, 06:16 PM   #5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveFTC View Post
Is there a better place than LQ?
What can anyone here tell you about what's going on somewhere else?? This:
https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/...edoraforum.org

...may help. You don't say whether this is a new issue for you, or how you have your system configured, but it appears up.
Quote:
Curl just hangs.

ping -c1 fedoraforum.org
PING fedoraforum.org (135.148.120.73) 56(84) bytes of data.

--- fedoraforum.org ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 0ms

dig @8.8.8.8 fedoraforum.org

; <<>> DiG 9.11.14-RedHat-9.11.14-2.fc30 <<>> @8.8.8.8 fedoraforum.org
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 2822
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;fedoraforum.org. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
fedoraforum.org. 14392 IN A 135.148.120.73

;; Query time: 74 msec
;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)
;; WHEN: Fri Jun 23 15:58:24 MDT 2023
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 60

I also can't access fedoraforum.org with midori. Don't have any browsers except Firefox and midori installed.
No problems from Firefox or Chrome on either Windows, Mac, or Linux.
 
Old 06-23-2023, 06:24 PM   #6
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Your dig results show that Google's nameserver was able to resolve the domain name without issue. You have a problem with whatever DNS you are currently using (at least with respect to fedoraforum.org).

What does the following return?
Code:
dig fedoraforum.org +trace
 
Old 06-23-2023, 06:42 PM   #7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TB0ne View Post
That site says it's up and https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/fedoraforum.org.html says access is forbidden.


Quote:
You don't say whether this is a new issue for you, or how you have your system configured
It's a new issue. Only began a few days ago.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ferrari View Post
Your dig results show that Google's nameserver was able to resolve the domain name without issue. You have a problem with whatever DNS you are currently using (at least with respect to fedoraforum.org).

What does the following return?
Code:
dig fedoraforum.org +trace
dig fedoraforum.org +trace

; <<>> DiG 9.11.14-RedHat-9.11.14-2.fc30 <<>> fedoraforum.org +trace
;; global options: +cmd
. 512318 IN NS a.root-servers.net.
. 512318 IN NS m.root-servers.net.
. 512318 IN NS j.root-servers.net.
. 512318 IN NS b.root-servers.net.
. 512318 IN NS e.root-servers.net.
. 512318 IN NS f.root-servers.net.
. 512318 IN NS c.root-servers.net.
. 512318 IN NS l.root-servers.net.
. 512318 IN NS h.root-servers.net.
. 512318 IN NS k.root-servers.net.
. 512318 IN NS g.root-servers.net.
. 512318 IN NS i.root-servers.net.
. 512318 IN NS d.root-servers.net.
. 518396 IN RRSIG NS 8 0 518400 20230706170000 20230623160000 60955 . brd2RTfVrRtpS3PifjRcw1UOYqf6es0ulHdUOsYEHM7wDmJylWydCbgt vWALUGhcMNLgHHbBjqwMesKvGZjMaSMaluJoHLySRvw8zIMEDXo9T44x rbOGwY4bODVyjog2R8TzNIXgLgDNfxqeOJT+BSCxRiR9B7n+nfTxSliH bMK9QSzP2c0TE7ZUlX61WFdDC3CkYA5yU7BZ7mkQVm4wOZjmol3cO6Rc x2svpDGMK4yHCHYmoGmvE0QBOepApLd4vR9zxph353A0ccCVloxYvxwy iOltIZn7BtCIHaNDo8mcw7VUznH6QU/fPunW+HncgDymRJQ4NIPeZ/vL BYPKvQ==
;; Received 613 bytes from 216.223.228.93#53(216.223.228.93) in 54 ms

org. 172800 IN NS a0.org.afilias-nst.info.
org. 172800 IN NS a2.org.afilias-nst.info.
org. 172800 IN NS b0.org.afilias-nst.org.
org. 172800 IN NS b2.org.afilias-nst.org.
org. 172800 IN NS c0.org.afilias-nst.info.
org. 172800 IN NS d0.org.afilias-nst.org.
org. 86400 IN DS 26974 8 2 4FEDE294C53F438A158C41D39489CD78A86BEB0D8A0AEAFF14745C0D 16E1DE32
org. 86400 IN RRSIG DS 8 1 86400 20230706170000 20230623160000 60955 . CF0TwtDrj5eU5ociZyhqj6AEtoThbSJPN21M6uUtbdjhA0UjrODi9Lac vr4vPdSy4UWV1CDgVzBBgvvSlRlvibYMRZm9IaI78j0pmfywg1zoIs3U Zy/tSQ609FzT0i5jeOjEqxYRxWJmKf9HSVUqGulxpYIRdASlrsVuB+jj my+pWJEbL0dHl9ubgUfm1UWsn+8axVuvHKFgafKkqIwqO9CCdFKcqEYJ KQc064GaiBFTkZ9evWWPKTfAx+VDPK5tIXHHyn18poiSUAvzGRmljCZ6 gdv7HDgRo3ErIXFuscL+uH12R6o+VBSfMAEjYsaWJv5re+gWh/TzxJp7 SineQQ==
;; Received 781 bytes from 199.7.83.42#53(l.root-servers.net) in 108 ms

fedoraforum.org. 3600 IN NS ns1.fedoraforum.org.
fedoraforum.org. 3600 IN NS ns2.fedoraforum.org.
gdtpongmpok61u9lvnipqor8lra9l4t0.org. 3600 IN NSEC3 1 1 0 332539EE7F95C32A GDTREA8KMJ2RNEQEN4M2OGJ26KFSUKJ7 NS SOA RRSIG DNSKEY NSEC3PARAM
gdtpongmpok61u9lvnipqor8lra9l4t0.org. 3600 IN RRSIG NSEC3 8 2 3600 20230714233135 20230623223135 33369 org. eqmdiY1THJ99jNIyamvttG6G+r80BBmrY2gSjtfCLFqwERV41voMr65H 5jcokmgxMFw5Qk4gQZgqkeI/GIbOmBykqUdX03aAwhZCUucrWMdxvCNg ShbUtwh+0eZE0lcjXH1kJfbASNnPBxPYvo4LK72TWaXFf3Bh2ErwrsWS 9+c=
s5fn8d425dram5mj6o5qimb8qshjgper.org. 3600 IN NSEC3 1 1 0 332539EE7F95C32A S5FQ6BS396JP1OQ287OCDFF4M8VDJGMQ NS DS RRSIG
s5fn8d425dram5mj6o5qimb8qshjgper.org. 3600 IN RRSIG NSEC3 8 2 3600 20230708152231 20230617142231 33369 org. R7vcQco00yv+gUzS5caEyfr2LCbDLSPnEiJZSUV3GPRwBDg/OkVgPfmV SG/klLyaC99IrW3w9EJmsvt8KrtoeX9kHN9GGZt18DRkK3hc253ULWmq m1UMdHnXW2w/4XrJtBPXWkobU4xZm5Nbk0Ndg+9jWT3gV2HJtN41SSK3 ZtM=
;; Received 613 bytes from 199.19.57.1#53(d0.org.afilias-nst.org) in 220 ms

;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached


I think I get the correct IP for fedoraforum.org. People who can access it get the same.

nslookup fedoraforum.org
Server: 216.223.228.93
Address: 216.223.228.93#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: fedoraforum.org
Address: 135.148.120.73
Last edited by SteveFTC; 06-23-2023 at 06:46 PM.
 
Old 06-23-2023, 07:55 PM   #8
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The problem is with the nameserver 216.223.228.93 as you would confirm if you compare
Code:
dig @216.223.228.93 fedoraforum.org
Code:
dig @216.223.228.93 google.com
with
Code:
dig @1.1.1.1 fedoraforum.org
Code:
dig @1.1.1.1 google.com
Configure a working DNS service, and all should be fine again.
 
Old 06-23-2023, 08:26 PM   #9
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For what it's worth, I connected to the site with no issues.
 
Old 06-23-2023, 08:31 PM   #10
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Website is hanging here now also..
Code:
openssl s_client -showcerts -connect google.com:443

openssl s_client -showcerts -connect fedoraforum.org:443
Maybe I hit it so many times I got blocked. Can you get the cert?

Edit:
I'm blocked, or it's down
Code:
ping -c1 fedoraforum.org
PING fedoraforum.org (135.148.120.73) 56(84) bytes of data.

--- fedoraforum.org ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 0ms
Last edited by teckk; 06-23-2023 at 08:34 PM.
 
Old 06-23-2023, 08:43 PM   #11
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I am still able to reach it via browser without issue.
 
Old 06-24-2023, 08:49 AM   #12
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Site has a history of being wonkey.
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...rg-4175719667/

You might contact them and see if they are banning ip addresses that are suspicious. I still can't access them today after poking them yesterday.
 
Old 06-24-2023, 09:13 AM   #13
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After reading that LQ post, I decided to use one of those free online proxys.

That site is blocking IP rages or countries or something...
https://0x0.st/HQmn.png

My conclusion. The problem isn't you, it's them.
 
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