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Old 09-06-2015, 09:48 AM   #1
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What's wrong with Jessie?


So I installed Jessie and there are a few weird things going on...

Here's a non-exhaustive list:

1. If I want to reboot, I have to do it via the CLI: sudo shutdown -r now. Clicking on my username (top right) gives me the option to log out or to power down. No reboot option. Why? Who decided to remove that option and for what reason?

2. I opened a folder in Nautilus. Back in the good ols days, if I wanted to move it to a different workspace, I'd right click on the menu bar, select the appropriate option and voila, the folder was moved to the selected workspace. But in Jessie, this is just not possible. Why? Why? Why?

3. Wanna click in the scrollbar to scroll down a page at a time? Forget it. You can't. You'll scroll to wherever you clicked in the scroll bar. Which genius decided that this is a good idea?

Maybe I'm missing something simple, but until I find out what, it's frikken frustrating.
 
Old 09-06-2015, 10:02 AM   #2
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I think it's the new Gnome way. The scroll bars thing is in XFCE too and it's annoying as hell. At this rate I may have to go back to KDE for the first time in a decade but, from waht I hear, it might be broken at the moment.
 
Old 09-06-2015, 10:08 AM   #3
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I cannot imagine going back to KDE... If push comes to shove I'll probably migrate to Ubuntu.
 
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Ubuntu's probably exactly the same. I think developers nowadays want you to buy a touch-screen device.
 
Old 09-06-2015, 11:30 AM   #5
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The good old Gnome2 is also available in Debian 8 Jessie. As Mate Desktop.

Just select MATE at install OS time.

Or install MATE after the OS install : 'task-mate-desktop'.


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Old 09-06-2015, 11:34 AM   #6
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I'm typing this from GNOME Shell in Debian Jessie.

1. I click on the Shutdown button and a window comes up with these options: Cancel, Restart, Power Off.

http://s6.postimg.org/s5m8hsfkh/gnome_reboot_1.png

2. Just open the Activities view, drag the window to another workspace, done.

3. Hm, I'm not seeing the problem here, either. I click in the scrollbar in Nautilus (aka Files) and scroll down one page at a time, the expected behavior. [Edit: Oh, sorry, I see... Actually, hadn't noticed before that it scrolls down to where you've clicked. Can't say that this has been an issue for me, though.]

This is GNOME 3.14.1 with no extensions enabled. I don't know, maybe I've changed some settings somewhere that you haven't changed, I can't remember -- my installation dates back to April of this year.

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Old 09-06-2015, 11:36 AM   #7
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Actually, things seem fine here apart from Firefox, I'd thought that Thunar had changed also but it hasn't.
 
Old 09-06-2015, 03:37 PM   #8
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Gnome is Gnome, regardless of the distro it's installed on. Same for the other desktop environments. Changing to a different distro won't help you.

As noted above, click on the Shutdown button, and you'll be given the option to restart, among others.
 
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The shutdown/reboot options usually require that the session is launched from a display manager such as gdm3 or kdm or that policykit. dbus, etc are all correctly configured. Personally I never halt from X so it doesn't bother me, I just logout and hit the ACPI soft off button on the front of the case...
 
Old 09-06-2015, 04:29 PM   #10
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If you're not using a display manager, be sure to include this stanza in ~/.xsession (or .xinitrc if you prefer to use that):
Code:
if [ -z "${DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS-}" ] && type dbus-launch >/dev/null; then
  eval $(dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session)
fi
This will launch the dbus session correctly.

I don't know if the dbus session will launch if `startx` is used without a .xsession/.xinitrc (ie, via /etc/alternatives/x-session-manager).
 
  


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