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Originally posted by jfranks214 Okay well that's interesting, but the question is, will they get their own desktop,
And the answer is ... "No". VNC just forwards the main display.
Apple does provide this functionality. It's $499 at shop.apple.com -- which is a good bit cheaper than an unlimited CAL bundle for windows TS I might add ...
*NIX is a multiuser system. That's why you can have 50 users running processes at once. You can run as many X servers as you like, but, the Aqua interface isn't X11, so there you go
Thanks again. If you mean Apple Remote Desktop, the trouble is that it only runs on Macs so far as I can tell, which doesn't help me. I'm continuing the research though so I'll let you guys know if I find anything.
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By the way, I forget if it was mentioned earlier, but Apple's X11 does allow you to export the display. Of course, that would only give you access to the X apps.
Yes, thanks, I can certainly do this, but since I can't forward Aqua, and OS X apps will not work, there is little difference in doing this from my BSD X-forwarded "terminal server" What I really need is a Mac desktop that runs Mac Apps....
That said, personally I followed SolusFides' suggestion and went with Apple's own X11. It doesn't add any kind of clutter, and I can run all my X apps in it. I ripped out fink since it's such a terrible and poorly maintained ports system and I'm happier for it. The Apple X11 really is the way to go here. Again, I have no idea why anyone would pay for an Apple and OS X, only to turn around and run KDE or Gnome on it. You might as well build a PC from scratch for 1/2 the price and run Linux or BSD.
Could have something to do with Apple selling high quality hardware and most PC Vendors selling crap. For instance, you buy one of those $200 Xandros PCs from Wal-Mart and you get crappy hardware. Some people don't buy Apple Hardware just for OS X, they buy Apple Hardware because it is Apple Hardware.
Originally posted by ubuntu-addict Could have something to do with Apple selling high quality hardware and most PC Vendors selling crap. For instance, you buy one of those $200 Xandros PCs from Wal-Mart and you get crappy hardware. Some people don't buy Apple Hardware just for OS X, they buy Apple Hardware because it is Apple Hardware.
Oh please. I'm certain that if Apple had a $200 machine (ROFLMAO!!!) it would be crap as well.
Apple sells the same quality of crap hardware that PC makers do (often the same exact hardware), it's just that for some reason people think $$ == quality and it most certainly does not. I have a G4 iBook (800MHz) for the simple fact that it's the cheapest machine Apple produces and I wanted a machine that I could play with OSX on.
Why anyone that doesn't just want OSX would pay the premium Apple gets for their ass ugly white computers I don't understand. Spend 1/3 of the money and get a decked out AMD64 that will eat your friends dual G5 for lunch.
My friend's Apple that he paid $2000 for 6 or 7 years ago is still chugging along (his little niece is using it atm). My Grandpa's $3000 PC he bought 5 years ago kicked out 2 months ago. Prime example. I'm not saying they are not overpriced...I just find they last longer.
Longevity isn't a big deal to anyone now. With the way hardware is going, do you think you'll be using your current "top of the line" PC (or Mac for that matter) for anything but a doorstop in 3 years? I know mine will be replaced *looooooong* before the hardware wears out (disks being the obvious exception).
And even if anyone did worry about that -- You can replace a $1000 PC three times before you're approaching the price of a Mac of similar horsepower.
hrm ... I'm pulling this thread even more off topic ...
I'll end my side of this discussion by saying that I am a mac owner. The one I have was the first, and will likely be the last. I paid twice what I should have for a machine that has half the power it should. OS X is nice and pretty and all that, but I'm more at home with BSD with FluxBox anyway (Which I'd have on this if anyone knew how to make this damnable airport extreme work ...).
Heh. Well I guess this one has gone a bit off track.....
Anyway, It appears that what I need simply can not be done at this point. My thread at apple.com actually got locked for "not being a technical question"
Hmm.
I'm just really dissapointed in Apple. The Mac fanatics are always there to tell you how their Mac can easily do whatever it is you're doing under Windows so much better, yet every one of them that I've brought this up with ducks the question in some way or other. It seems they are loath to admit that there may be something that Windows can do that their beloved Mac can not.
Don't get me wrong.... I'd rather do it on FreeBSD any day of the week. Solaris would be second in line. Heck, I'd rather use a mainframe before using Windows, but one has to admit that Windows does this pretty well. (And at a premium for licensing... what's with THAT??)
Being a network engineer for a school district, I feel compelled to respond to the above (off topic) statements about hardware quality. We have loads of old hardare, PC and MAC (and pre-mac Apple) I have to say that in general, there are examples to prove both sides. We have Mac classics that still run fine, and we have 386 machines still working. Neither one is worth a d**n if you actually want to do anything, but they work as designed years later. We also have junk heaps of old useless macs and old useless pc's. They're about the same size....
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