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Old 01-25-2007, 03:46 AM   #1
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Ubuntu Ultimate Edition is it all that.....


was just browsing linuxtracker.org deciding which distro next, and noticed the "ubuntu ultimate edition" which looks really interesting. however when i went to ubuntu sight there is no news of ultimate edition being released. is it from ubuntu? has anybody here tried this edition and is it worth the dl?
 
Old 01-26-2007, 11:53 AM   #2
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DistroWatch is a site you should also check out. I've never heard nor did find any references to "Ubuntu ultimate edition", the latest two that Ubuntu has released are Dapper Drake with LTS (long term support, 6.06), Edgy Eft (6.10) and the upcoming version 7.something, named Feisty. No idea what "ultimate" is, if it even exists. Usually these "ultimate", "mega", "gigasuper" etc. 'editions' just tend to be over-bloated packs that no real user would like to try. A bit like Fedora is becoming to be, with 5 install discs and a lot of stuff you don't need. The best way is to give one layout and then a possibility to alter it to suit your needs; surely not to just dump everything possible in.
 
Old 01-26-2007, 01:14 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by b0uncer
DistroWatch is a site you should also check out. I've never heard nor did find any references to "Ubuntu ultimate edition", the latest two that Ubuntu has released are Dapper Drake with LTS (long term support, 6.06), Edgy Eft (6.10) and the upcoming version 7.something, named Feisty. No idea what "ultimate" is, if it even exists. Usually these "ultimate", "mega", "gigasuper" etc. 'editions' just tend to be over-bloated packs that no real user would like to try. A bit like Fedora is becoming to be, with 5 install discs and a lot of stuff you don't need. The best way is to give one layout and then a possibility to alter it to suit your needs; surely not to just dump everything possible in.

Well said, it's just one of those things I haven't thought about too much as I just wanted a distro that did everything I wanted with the option to add more as needed. Just another reason to add to my list of why I like Ubuntu.
 
Old 01-26-2007, 10:56 PM   #4
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You think Fedora core is an obese version of linux try Suse 9.0 Professional wit a wopped 6 disks and a dvd.
 
Old 01-27-2007, 08:20 AM   #5
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mm thanks, i thought thought that may be the case, i am going to try this though as i have practically completed the torrent. as i am really new to linux and need things set up automatcially for me, this will save me some messing about, as it seems to have lots of stuff precomplied. until i get better at using linux and i can install things myself.

i do agree that bloated systems are not the way forward so perhaps i can learn about uninstalling things from this system. and ubuntu seems to promise on optimisitic future.
 
Old 01-28-2007, 10:57 PM   #6
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You think Fedora core is an obese version of linux try Suse 9.0 Professional wit a wopped 6 disks and a dvd.
wow

I installed fc6 for some students at a college the other day. The dvd took like 2 hours to install and another 2 hours of updates!
 
Old 01-28-2007, 11:41 PM   #7
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Usually these "ultimate", "mega", "gigasuper" etc. 'editions' just tend to be over-bloated packs that no real user would like to try. A bit like Fedora is becoming to be, with 5 install discs and a lot of stuff you don't need. The best way is to give one layout and then a possibility to alter it to suit your needs; surely not to just dump everything possible in.
I disagree a little here. Not everyone has a high speed internet connection, so distros like Fedora Core, Suse and Mandriva which ship a lot of packages are ideal for such people. Remember that if you do not want to download the entire distro, you can do a network installation using some sort of boot cd or floppies and then pick and choose the bits you need. I for one dislike the one size fits all thats in distros like Ubuntu and Mandriva One because I like to customise the installation right from the beginning.
 
Old 01-29-2007, 12:20 AM   #8
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Ubuntu ultimate edition

I don't know about Fedora but none of my Mandrake/Mandriva distros have taken as long to install as Ubuntu, and when the installation is complete most if not all of the setup is done. The power pack (obtainable from Linux central for about 15 usd and other places) runs 6 or 7 cds or 1 dvd. I like Ubuntu for the forum which is very good but I like to switch back and forth between Gnome and KDE. I have dialup internet and getting KDE for Ubuntu at about 10 megabyte/hour isn't feasable. As long as they both work I will continue to dual boot with them. Neither is the ultimate. If one was I probably couldn't afford it. Don
 
Old 01-29-2007, 05:18 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by b0uncer
DistroWatch is a site you should also check out. I've never heard nor did find any references to "Ubuntu ultimate edition", the latest two that Ubuntu has released are Dapper Drake with LTS (long term support, 6.06), Edgy Eft (6.10) and the upcoming version 7.something, named Feisty. No idea what "ultimate" is, if it even exists. Usually these "ultimate", "mega", "gigasuper" etc. 'editions' just tend to be over-bloated packs that no real user would like to try. A bit like Fedora is becoming to be, with 5 install discs and a lot of stuff you don't need. The best way is to give one layout and then a possibility to alter it to suit your needs; surely not to just dump everything possible in.
I wrote Ubuntu Ultimate Edition as well as Christmas Edition a while back, the whole purpose of it? It is geared for the new guy in linux, simplicity is what I seek for the end user, yes it is loaded with software but fits on 1 disk. I grant you a DVD, I have considered making a PS3 version loaded with games and a stripped down version for those with slower connections but do not have the time to build one after the other, write a website still under construction, program, and another website maintenance wise.

I am typically so busy I do not have time for the "old lady". I use that term loosely, let alone for all the things you would like included in a distro versus the next guy etc.

I suppose I should take the time to post that "Ultimate Edition" has knocked my server offline for at least the last 24 hours, has been downloaded 8000+ times in the last 3 days it has only been out 3 days as an official release (1.0 being beta), and is hosted on the largest hosting company in the world. It is on the homepage in #1 Dugg linux on Digg as well as Buzz on stumbleapon. So if it doesn't come up you know why. The server is getting hammered.

If you happen to read this much latter do a search on Digg for "Ubuntu Ultimate Edition!" I have been praying they take me off their homepage have you ever hear of the "Digg effect"?

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Old 01-29-2007, 05:44 AM   #10
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wow

I installed fc6 for some students at a college the other day. The dvd took like 2 hours to install and another 2 hours of updates!

I have taken the time to include all updates to the distro 158 Updates at time of release. I'm sure there are now more but thats 158 you wouldn't have to download / deal with.

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Old 01-29-2007, 05:48 AM   #11
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I disagree a little here. Not everyone has a high speed internet connection, so distros like Fedora Core, Suse and Mandriva which ship a lot of packages are ideal for such people. Remember that if you do not want to download the entire distro, you can do a network installation using some sort of boot cd or floppies and then pick and choose the bits you need. I for one dislike the one size fits all thats in distros like Ubuntu and Mandriva One because I like to customise the installation right from the beginning.

Allow me to help you with customization... First you turn you back on Ubuntu, I say only Ubuntu can you do such with and provide you a link to show you how I made my distros. Provided it's up I had to refresh it 4 times to get the page. It is under a very heavy load currently.

It will be written much better time provided. I have at least 150 pages to write as it sits and to go back and clean up errors. The site is under construction.

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Old 01-30-2007, 02:13 AM   #12
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Mirror

I apologize for the downtime Downloads: #1. ubuntusoftware.info/ultimate/ubuntu-ultimate1.1.iso Downloads: 21,326, 13,000+ in 1 day, Enjoy the Digg Effect on the Linux homepage has been down at least 24 hours... I have set up a mirror please download from here: http://fly5.pp.fi/ultimate/ubuntu-ultimate1.1.iso

Or the torrent here: http://linuxtracker.org/torrents-details.php?id=3487
 
Old 02-16-2007, 04:59 AM   #13
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Ubuntu Ultimate Edition

TheeMahn,

I have to congratulate you on the latest edition of Ubuntu Ultimate - I only found it yesterday and it is exactly what I and I imagine many users want. I want the simplicity of Ubuntu, but without having to spend hours downloading software everytime I install it. I was in the process of experimenting with reconstructor to make my own Ubuntu DVD - I was planning to include many of the programs you have installed. I have always been torn between the multiplicity of software packages in Knoppix and the ease of use of Ubuntu - this distro pushes the argument in favour of Ubuntu.

From my perspective you can't have too many programs on the disk - fill it up! The latest Knoppix has approx 10Gb of programs! I think you have supplied a great range of software, but I would like to see a few decent 3D games on there as well!

Keep up the good work and I cannot wait for the next edition! When do you expect to release it?

drbongo

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Old 02-16-2007, 06:33 AM   #14
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somehow, i fear that the stability offered by Linux may be overlooked when looking at packages and programs. that is the reason i wanted to switch to Linux in the first place-it doesnt crash when you sneeze like windows. I dont know how to make my own distro, but for those of you who do, keep that in mind.
 
Old 02-17-2007, 10:05 AM   #15
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TheeMahn,

I have to congratulate you on the latest edition of Ubuntu Ultimate - I only found it yesterday and it is exactly what I and I imagine many users want. I want the simplicity of Ubuntu, but without having to spend hours downloading software everytime I install it. I was in the process of experimenting with reconstructor to make my own Ubuntu DVD - I was planning to include many of the programs you have installed. I have always been torn between the multiplicity of software packages in Knoppix and the ease of use of Ubuntu - this distro pushes the argument in favour of Ubuntu.

From my perspective you can't have too many programs on the disk - fill it up! The latest Knoppix has approx 10Gb of programs! I think you have supplied a great range of software, but I would like to see a few decent 3D games on there as well!

Keep up the good work and I cannot wait for the next edition! When do you expect to release it?

drbongo

Thanks for your kind comments, I have just uploaded version 1.2 it works beautifully on any system that does not have an nvidia card or SMP (dual core cpus). I am addressing both these issues and probably will have both fixed as early as Monday, after uploading it I have decided not to release it until both issues have been addressed.

I have posted a few screenshots for your viewing pleasure. A couple others that are of it booting and installing.

I have quite a few modules in work for adding good 3D games to the distro such as ActionCube, Alienarena, Enemy Territory, Open Arena & Nexuiz

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