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Old 07-08-2007, 06:00 PM   #1
popcorn5714
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no wireless connection in fiesty


have tried several things but to no avail
read many threads from the internet and have uninstalled network manager and installes wicd and while the program did come up and work
it found no wireless networks, when i first installed this on my laptop, it would show several wireless networks, but I could not connect to any of them, at this point I am ready to go back to xp
I am running this distro on a desktop with a wired connection and thought I would really enjoy having it on my laptop as well
any help would be appreciated
laptop is averatec 3200
with builtin 802.11.g mini/pcicard
I think it is trying to use the ralink drivers
but not sure, just a noob on this stuff
thanks
 
Old 07-09-2007, 10:57 AM   #2
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I'm not real familiar with Wireless, as my network is wired, but the below link might help...

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs

IGF
 
Old 07-09-2007, 11:12 AM   #3
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If you're ready to "go to XP", then go, don't cry about it. If you want help instead, it's all right too.

#1 Ubuntu's default network manager is just fine, if it can't show the networks, it's no use removing it and installing some other tool - as far as I know, they're all merely front-ends to the wireless-tools (iwlist, iwconfig, ...) so you can safely use the default network manager to first get things running - if you want to change it for some reason, you can do so afterwards. I found Ubuntu's network manager (or rather the applet) very nice compared to the other solutions.

#2 Determine your wireless device. If you have wired device, it's usually called eth0 so your wireless is then usually either eth1 or wlan0 depending on how your machine is configured. Both are just fine (some people seem to think "eth1" is wrong, but it's not). After you know it (or just guess, it's all the same), try running
Code:
iwlist eth1 scan
and see the results - if that tells you your device "does not support scanning", but you know it does, it's a problem with the driver. If it just tells you there is nothing out there, your driver is (or should be) working fine, and you can leave that out of the inspection.

#3 If the above told you your device (TRY BOTH eth1 AND wlan0 TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE CORRECT DEVICE) doesn't support scanning, start thinking what driver you're using. Maybe
Code:
dmesg | grep wire
lsmod
helps - try to figure out what the card chipset is -> what driver (module) it uses, and if that module is loaded. If not, load it and retry, but if it is loaded, things look like the driver doesn't work.

#4 If the native driver doesn't just work out (note: if it has worked once, then don't go about trying other drivers, it's no use), as a final move you can resort to (or try to) NDISwrapper. It's a program you can use to use Windows drivers for your card instead; that's what the name says. There are numerous howtos about ndiswrapper installation and 96% of them work on every distribution in addition to the one they're written for, so don't ask, search them. It's not as good choice as a native driver, it's just as good as using XP would be. If you're fine with that, go there.

#5 If you think the driver is loaded and working, next step is to inspect your settings. Did "iwlist eth1(/wlan0) scan" give any results? If it did, try to connect to some ESSID. Maybe it's the user/pass values, or security settings - have you configured WPA if it's used?

#6 There are n.u.m.e.r.o.u.s. howtos for Ubuntu (and even more for other distributions that may work just as well) about this, about problem situations, about your specific card and about your bad monday too. Read them trough, carefully, thinking about the matter in hand rather than just "being ready to go to XP".
 
Old 07-09-2007, 04:08 PM   #4
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Averatec 3200 + Ubuntu 7.04

Hi Popcorn5714,
I had trouble connecting my Averatec 3250 with Ralink RT2500 mini pci wireless card too. From a fresh Ubuntu 7.04 install I removed the Gnome Network Manager, setup the wireless connection using System, Administration, Network, and then re-booted and it worked. I'm sure there is a better way than rebooting but old windows habits die hard You can probably setup your connection after the reboot too, that's just the sequence I used and it worked.
Hope this helps. I've really enjoyed using Ubuntu on my Averatec and was disappointed that 7.04 didn't work "out of the box" the way previous versions had.
 
Old 07-09-2007, 08:19 PM   #5
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Smile timcrace

thanks for the advice on the gnome network manager
went and uninstalled it and and rebooted, and now this program I have called wicd, works, I am using it to send this message, I appreciate
the help, I am using this distro on a desktop I have and really wanted to run it on this laptop, I don't know exactly why the built in manager didn't work but it doesn't matter as long as I am connected and surfing, maybe some day when I have a lot more time I will get more of the the things linux is and can do, but for now just want something different than windows, but not so complicated it takes days to make it work,
thanks again,
popcorn5714
 
  


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