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Old 11-17-2014, 11:12 AM   #1
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LXer: Developer Leaves Debian Systemd Maintainer Team After Constant Attacks


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The Debian and systemd debate has pushed yet another developer to quit an important role in the Debian project. Tollef Fog Heen has resigned his position because of the constant attacks regarding the implementation of systemd in Debian.

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Old 11-17-2014, 10:13 PM   #2
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"Many users have left any kind of civility aside and have been vitriolic in their statements."

Too bad that being educated does not equate being civilized. This would be unacceptable even if they were customers paying for a service.
 
Old 11-17-2014, 10:17 PM   #3
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I agree. I haven't seen the statements in question, but I already have a good idea of what they were like.
 
Old 11-17-2014, 10:51 PM   #4
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This would be unacceptable even if they were customers paying for a service.
But it was acceptable for the Technical Committee to use a loophole in the Debian constitution to do something that was outside their sphere of responsibility? And that illegal action was to force a change that involves adding experimental software to the system, which violates the Debian philosophy of only including well-tested software in a stable system?

In other words, forcing a major change that was outside their jurisdiction by using under-handed tactics is fine, but it is not alright for users who feel betrayed by such actions to voice their anger?
 
Old 11-17-2014, 11:09 PM   #5
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But it was acceptable for the Technical Committee to use a loophole in the Debian constitution to do something that was outside their sphere of responsibility?
I'd like to see this loophole.
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And that illegal action was to force a change that involves adding experimental software to the system, which violates the Debian philosophy of only including well-tested software in a stable system?
Experimental? Nope, it was included in Wheezy so it wasn't experimental. The only difference is it is default in Jessie but that does not mean the user must have it. They can choose between 3 if they want to.

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In other words, forcing a major change that was outside their jurisdiction by using under-handed tactics is fine, but it is not alright for users who feel betrayed by such actions to voice their anger?
Attacking a DD when the anger is with the TC is just wrong. Voicing concern is fine, the exact same way it is/was fine for all those Ubuntu users to voice concern over Unity Dash, the problem is how the concern is voiced.

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