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Old 10-24-2005, 11:02 AM   #1
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Yet another DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter post


I have been searching and searching for any viable means to get DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter to run reliably under wine.

So far I have been able to:

Get DVD Shrink to work, but it is having problems accessing "memory locations" and crashes several times. Also any .VOB file created gives video similar to that of old encrypted cable boxes. Strange

I have been able to get DVD Decrypter to start to find the DVD Drives by using NT40 as the emulated windows system, but it keeps giving a sense error.

Any ideas?

Also if anyone knows a Linux alternative to these programs that will:

1. Not create a DivX, AVI, MPEG file.
2. Directly create an ISO
3. Effectively circumvent the ARCCOS protection.


thanks
 
Old 10-25-2005, 12:25 PM   #2
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WIne 0.9 appears to fix the problem of running DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter under linux.

Make sure that you set DVD Decrypter to NT40 with winecfg.
 
Old 10-25-2005, 12:44 PM   #3
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XDVDShrink?

http://sourceforge.net/projects/dvdshrink
 
Old 11-12-2005, 10:24 AM   #4
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It is better to use DVDShrink and DVDDecrypter due to the Sony ArCcos protection. Linux dvd utilities can not get around this.
 
Old 11-14-2005, 09:54 AM   #5
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I got DVDshrink to work in my linux.

Problem. I can't get into the DVD to run DVDshrink.

I run winecfg and it tells me that it is not working yet. How do I get it up and running?
Still haven't found the ~/.wine/config file. I tried copying another to the location but that just prevents the stuff I have running in wine from working. Any ideas?
Please help
 
Old 11-14-2005, 10:06 AM   #6
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If you download the newest Wine from www.winehq.com dvdshrink should work straight away after installing it, while dvddecrypter works with one small change. Run winecfg from the terminal and add dvddecrypter changing Win2000 to NT 4.0 in the options.

Both programs work exellent on my SUSE 10.0 this way.

Hope it works for you.
 
Old 11-15-2005, 02:42 AM   #7
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I installed the new wine. What I had was my FC3 was not updating it for some reason. What I did was delete and unistall wine with yum and manually. Then I installed the new wine. DVDshrink works but still doesnt recognize my dvd player. Good news is winecfg works and recognizes my dvdr in my laptop. Do I need to add any lines to link the DVDshrink to my /media/cdrecorder which is my cdr+dvdr?
 
Old 11-15-2005, 03:07 AM   #8
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Sorry I don't know. I'm pretty much a newbee. Maybe something in SUSE is set up different than in Fedora which makes it work so easy in SUSE.
 
Old 11-15-2005, 10:38 AM   #9
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If FC automounts, then you need to have a dvd in the drive prior to starting DVDShrink. If not then you have to mount it manually. The important thing here is to have the drive mounted PRIOR to starting DvdShrink. Also in order to read a CSS encrypted disc, you will need to install LibDVDCSS and LibDVDREAD. WIne runs out of your /home directory. In my case /home/usaf_sp/.wine. It is a hidden folder.

Winecfg works very well under the new release 0.9. Also only DVD Decrypter needs NT4.0 emulation, DVD Shrink should be set to WinXP. If you need further info, I suggest you get the manual from www.winehq.org

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Old 11-15-2005, 09:53 PM   #10
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Do I need to set my media/cdrecorder to another dev to get the dvd part of it to work or is it done auto when I boot in with a DVD in the drive?

If so what would I need to set the automount to in order to get my DVDrom/r/rw to mount as such and no longer just as a cdr
 
Old 11-15-2005, 11:00 PM   #11
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Do you have 2 DVD writers?

I have 2 dvd writers and one of them is seen as a cdr, but I have not noticed how that affects the operation.

Just be sure that the disc is in the drive and mounted prior to opening DVDShrink.
 
Old 11-15-2005, 11:10 PM   #12
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no I have one that did it all in windows before. But when I started using linux it became just a cdr and I want to get it back to the full capabilities that it had in windows. Seams a kind of waste if I dont.
 
Old 11-16-2005, 12:10 AM   #13
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Either one of us or both are not understanding what the other is trying to say.

Where are you seeing that the drive is a cdr? Is it in K3b or some similar program or in the winecfg?

If it is winecfg that is telling you that your drive is a cdr, then you can ignore that. If your burning program in Linux is not recognising the drive, then I think you need to check that the drive is recognised by the OS properly. I can not tell you how to do this in FC since I don't use FC, sorry.


BTW: Try to forget everything you know about windows, since linux does things diferently. This will speed your understanding of how Linux works. If it does not make sense at first, try to read the FC manual from start to finish. Granted you will not understand everyting at first, but it helps when you start to use it.

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Old 11-16-2005, 01:41 AM   #14
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I tryed a new program
http://k9copy.free.fr/
Seems good. I can't tell if the quality of the compressed (the algorithm) is as good as CloneDVD or DVDSHRINK, but get's the job done.
 
Old 12-15-2005, 03:32 PM   #15
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K9 Copy can not as of yet circumvent the ArcCos protection since the drive and all its supporting OS drivers are designed to correct read errors.

ArcCos is Sony's attempt to emulate what it has done with PS1 and PS2 games with a DVD movie. The protection scheme is to write defect sectors into a disc and bypass them during play on a dvd player through (for lack of a better term) its structure map. Standard DVD writers/readers compensate and correct the defects when it is ripped onto the drive. If the software you are using does not recognize and write dummy sectors, then you will have a "Cyclic Redundency Error" that will cause a failed copy.

In order to circumvent this protection, the software used has to control the drive directly; in other words to directly control the read/write operations of the drive by overriding the built in OS driver's control of the hardware. DVD Decryptor is the only software that can be run using wine that will recognize the defect sectors and write dummys so that the Structure remains intact and ignors CRC errors. Furthermore the ArcCos protected disc needs to be ripped into an ISO file so that the structural integrity of the disc can be maintained when it is burned.

Sometimes DVD Decryptor can not accurately read defects in a disc or read the disc itself, this may be due to:

1. Small scratches on the read surface, especially on DVD +/-R discs.

2. The laser has overheated and can not focus on the disc properly.

To overcome both of these problems:

1. Carefully clean the disc with a cleaning paste. DVD data is encoded with more fined tuned laser so do not use anyting that will scratch your disc. Toothpaste or some cleaning paste of the same consistency works great. To clean the toothpaste off you can use alcohol.

2. When the laser heats up the read of the disc may become very, very slow or not work altogether. To fix this pause DVD Decryptor for 30 minutes to allow your drive to cool and then resume. You may have to do this a few times depending on your drive. WARNING!: If you are copying a copy (aka DVD+/-R discs) do not allow DVD Decryptor to retry reading a defect more than 10 times as this will cause the laser to focus on a certian spot on the disc too long. This acts like a burn if done too many times and therefore PERMANANTLY ruins the spot on the disc. When the read fails let the drive cool for 30 minutes and try again.

I hope you now understand why I say to use the software mentioned instead of the Linux versions. It is about using what works. You are not being disloyal to linux if you use a program designed for windows, you are helping wine get better!

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