SUSE 10.1 bit sluggish!!! How to speed it up??

alaios · 06-20-2006, 05:34 PM

Thx a lot guys for support the problem is that i cant find zen and xgl packages listed to Software management list
I think that might be a problem with my yast sources. Do u know an easy way to copy and paste them to this forum?

Tje · 06-20-2006, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by alaios

Thx a lot guys for support the problem is that i cant find zen and xgl packages listed to Software management list
I think that might be a problem with my yast sources. Do u know an easy way to copy and paste them to this forum?

I think novell-zmd is refer to zen ...

Tje · 06-20-2006, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by drsketch1

suse 10.1 ran fast for me.
Installed on an intel duo core laptop (Dell Inspiron E1505) with 1gb ddr2 and a sata hdd @5400rpm

I have fedora running as servers on more than on P3 dual core 733mhz slot
and an athlon 1.1
Fedora runs beautifully on all of these. The P3's all have a GB of PC133 and,
The athlon has 512mb PC133
That system should run it fine!

I found SuSe 10.1 to be the best Linux OS for a Laptop so far. Wireless worked good as did everything else. I did install the commercial version but I don't think that has any difference in the CORE OS Code. Just some non Open Source Software.

so you think that Linux Suse distribution is best for laptop so far..
hm..so far I know is Suse got a nice power management for Centrino laptop..
Power management is crucial for laptop to save power to improve performance..

But, is it really only on Suse..?
compare to Mandriva, I feel that Mandriva runs a bit faster than Suse 10.1, but Mandriva disappointed me with the power management. Mandriva is not good detect and display my video card, so I had to configure it manually. Mandriva's power management is not good as Suse.

I want to know what is the best Distro for laptop. So far I have been experience in Mandriva and Suse. The next I will try either Fedora or Slackware

..

A little bit experience from Mandriva:
1. Not good at my video card, not good display. I had to update and configure it manually
2. Not good at wireless, but easy to update the firmware, and it worked smoothly.
3. Not VERY good at power management. My Laptop's battery likes leaking or something..!!
4. Not good for fnfx - toshiba's hot key....because my laptop is toshiba. But it just need to download and install....very easy..

A little bit experience from Suse 10.1:
1. Nice display, detected correctly, detected automatically
2. Nice Power Management, we can also use SUSPEND feature....very nice..
3. wireless..? took me 1 week to research, spending so much time but the solution is very simple, shit happened....I think it is bug on KNetworkManager, we have to select hex key for WEP passhrase..? it is strange but it works...
4. one not good thing is, pcmcia not working

that's all

Cheers,

Tje

liaty · 06-21-2006, 05:18 AM

alaios, regarding zen, you don't have to uninstall. Go into Yast - system - system services (run level) and highlight novel-zmd then click on disable. That way if you still need to use it later you can enable it again.

neosap · 06-21-2006, 06:52 AM

TJE: I dont know the best distro for Laptop... but there are some distos which run good on LAptop.... I tried FC4, SUSE 10.1, Ubuntu.

I will suggest you to go with Slackware..... heard a lot about it that its fast.....

I have a Compaq Presarion 905US lappy..... I had a good experience with FC4... it was rocking on my lappy..... but when i upgraded it to FC5... I had a lot of problems.... may be some installation problems because of me..... then I installed it fresh.... but it was not able to mount my DVD ROM.... even I was not able to add remove programs..... and some other service problems...... then i switched to SUSE 10.1..... the distro is good.... i am liking it.....

I would definately not recommend FC5.... rather I will say try FC4...

Cheers,
NeoSAP

alaios · 06-21-2006, 06:57 AM

What novel-zmd provides? Still cant find it to the services

liaty · 06-21-2006, 11:30 AM

novel-zmd runs the zen software installer. If you were to download an rpm file to your desktop, you could install it with zen by clicking on it. That is why I suggested installing the apps you think you will want and then disabling it.

broch · 06-21-2006, 11:39 AM

you don't need zen for anything:
I uninstalled zen/zmd/rug/mono crap and PM works nice and fast
Yast PM runs fine without zen

dasy2k1 · 06-21-2006, 04:49 PM

in the hunt for a better distro, i have tried slackware on a desktop (sorry never tried any linux on a laptop)

there is no deniying that slackware is blindingly fast and totally bloat free!
but...
while it isnatlls on my slowest machine in 30mins (suse wouldent even fit!)

you have to know what you are doing in the installer though it is better than some i have seen (though not used)

the problem comes when you try to use the thing....
by default it booots to runlevel 3 no big deal
just type startx to go,

then wach your system hang.
browse around the wery good slackware forum here (so good because the offical forum for slackware is linuxquestions!)
(using lynx as that is all you can get to work)
(thankfully lynx works on this website (unlike most))

modify the offending config file using VI

sty startx this tiem and hopefully it works....

cuse that your mouse wheel isnt working, modify xorg.conf by hand to fix this

insert your USB flah dive to import some data,
nothing

now which is it? sda? sdb? or what?

cd /mnt
mkdir usbpen
su
password ***************
mount /dev/sda /mnt/usbpen

pray that it recognises the file format and you are away...

find this peaice of software that you just have to have... chances are its a RPM file...

so to insatll
1) run rpm2tgz on it
2) unzip it to a folder somwhere
3) chmod the program to make it exacutable
4) move the whole folder to somwhere in your path
5) run the program form an Xterm

im not saying that i dislike slackware here...
i have used it, and think it is one of the better distros for slow hardware,
[railway terminolagy]the learning curve is so tight it needs a checkrail [/railway terminolagy]

you just need to be at ease with modifying config files by hand to do just about any basic system task!, the colosest you get to any helpfull program like yast is pkgtool which is a somwhat simple console based utilaty (blue screen/red button keyboard driven GUI)

once you have mastered slackware you should be ready for linux from scrach!

dasy2k1 · 06-21-2006, 04:50 PM

on teh matter of slow YATS i have just disables Zen and a whole host of other things i never use (like NFS)
and hopefully i will see some speed boost next time i run software management

Tje · 06-22-2006, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neosap

TJE: I dont know the best distro for Laptop... but there are some distos which run good on LAptop.... I tried FC4, SUSE 10.1, Ubuntu.

I will suggest you to go with Slackware..... heard a lot about it that its fast.....

I have a Compaq Presarion 905US lappy..... I had a good experience with FC4... it was rocking on my lappy..... but when i upgraded it to FC5... I had a lot of problems.... may be some installation problems because of me..... then I installed it fresh.... but it was not able to mount my DVD ROM.... even I was not able to add remove programs..... and some other service problems...... then i switched to SUSE 10.1..... the distro is good.... i am liking it.....

I would definately not recommend FC5.... rather I will say try FC4...

Cheers,
NeoSAP

ok...two persons recommends slackware here...
hm...seems like we have to make all of our hardwares working properly MANUALLY...even for usb or mouse..? oh my GOD..

hm..
ok..I have been use Suse 10.1 (my first time Suse installed) for 1 months..
I dont wantto delete it..but interested to try Slackware..

I never triple boot with 2 Linux distros and Windows (currently dual boot with Windows and Suse, Windows use for gaming and .NET programming)

So Maybe some suggestions how to do triple boot properly..?
I give my current partition condition:

Code:

 Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *           1        3187    25599546    7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hda2            3188        9729    52548615    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/hda5            3188        5232    16426431    b  W95 FAT32
/dev/hda6            5233        5870     5124703+  83  Linux
/dev/hda7            5871        9577    29776446   83  Linux
/dev/hda8            9578        9641      514048+  83  Linux
/dev/hda9            9642        9729      706828+  82  Linux swap / Solaris

Thank you...

Cheers,

Tje

drsketch1 · 06-22-2006, 06:51 AM

I loaded my win wireless drivers with ndiswrapper
put this is in startup

modprobe ndiswrapper
and it works
even the high definition sound worked right from the gate, which I was suprised on. Don't get me wrong, I wouldnt run suse anywhere else and just put it on the laptop to test for a week.

Right now I am running:
debian without X Apache2
Fedora core 4 with X PDC, smb, nfs, cups

Red Knuckles · 06-22-2006, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by reddazz

Your specs are ok. Try disabling unwanted services YAST -> System -> System Services.

I'm a newbie. Any idea as to what system services to disable???

Red Knuckles · 06-22-2006, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by broch

1) stop unused services (particularly nfs and ypbind if not configured will slow down system)
2) disable beagle (indexing is always slow)
3) disable zen (uninstall it and uninstall all mono crap): use smart or another PM
4) tweak GUI: with default KDE, you may disable a lot of KDE services that you are not using
5) don't use networked applets (e.g. superkaramba's weather)

6) last but not least: build your own kernel: select CPU, use low latency desktop (increases GUI responsiveness tremendously), sparse memory, set kernel timer to 1000Hz, remove all unused hardware
(remember though that recompiling kernel will bot very much change boot time)

with KDE your total after boot should be ~130MB of RAM used. if boot without GUI, then kernel should take 40-45MB or less.

Note about kernel timer:
for laptop (power management) and older CPU use 100Hz, for fast CPU use 1000Hz (multimedia)

So far I've removed beagle, zen, zmd, rug, nfs, and mono and disabled ypbind. my system immediately seems faster without rebooting. Will this perhaps help Yast to run normally?

Also regarding tweaking gui I'm a newb but I think this is done in Kde Service Manager>Components>Service Manager. My question is what to disable? Under 'Load on Demand' I have 3 running:

KDED Favicon Module
KDED Konqueror Preloader Module
KWallet Daemon Module

Under 'Startup Services' everything is disabled.

Again what can I disable to speed up the gui?