Can you openSuse 11 users please do a quick check for me?

I have Slackware installed in one hard disk with / in a 500 Mb partition and /usr in a 6 Gb partition.

No problem at all since / only takes 235 Mb and /usr only takes 4 Gb in my current Slackware system.

But note that I move /opt into /usr and symlink /usr/opt to /opt as soon as the installation is done.

Also, I have /home /var and /tmp in separate partitions.

Will those / and /usr partition sizes be enough to install openSuse 11, or is openSuse a lot "fatter"?

TIA

It depends on what you like to install of opensuse .
Basic install ore every thing you can get from opensuse.

I just want openSuse 11 users to tell me how much disk their installation is using - applying a little math in case they use one single partition.

Wel in my case root and /home together 11.5 GB
But all opensuse desktop for instance are installed KDE ,GNOME ,XFCE, LXDE, openoffice, GAMES , c compiler , and so on
So again what do you like to install
And I do not like to use more than 80 % of my space I reserved for a distro
But to be at the save side I would say 8 GB

Thank you for willing to help, but you aren't helping in fact.

"root and /home together 11.5 GB"

How am I supposed to know how much your /home directory is taking? That is by far the most personal and unpredictable thing in a Linux installation. Can you please tell me how much /home takes with 'du -h /home' so I can subtract?

Also I need to know how much your /usr directory is taking.

Here is one possible good answer:

"root and /home together take 11.5 GB, but since my /home takes XYZ Gb and you have yours in a separate partition, that means you would probably need just XKW Gb. Also note that my /usr directory takes ZJH Gb, which is (more|less) than you have allocated for your /usr partition. Since you have /usr in another partition, a root partition similar to mine in your system would actually take XCV Mb, so your 500 Mb partition is (large enough|not suitable)."

I hate to sound ungrateful, but there is really nothing I can use in the information you have provided so far.

You misunderstand me the amount I give is the amount of space use at this moment.
Being 5 GB as /home and 8 GB as linux native
Actually my partitions are 20 GB as linux native 70 GB as /home and 4 GB as swap
Why is my home so big because I like to do a lot of photo work and music
And I do install a lot of applications
But again what are you planning to install ?
IF you install opensuse in the expert ore customize mode you decide how much space opensuse may use and which
applications should be installed.

Yes, but if you asked a question for which there wasn't a helpful answer, that's exactly what you'd expect: Most people to ignore it and someone does try to help, even though your question, as you stated it, does not really allow of a useful answer and so they have to give you something which only vaguely approximates to a useful answer.

How do you think I should have worded the question then?

If you want someone to check their installed sizes, it won't do you any good unless you know what is installed. Ideally, you'd like to know what the various sizes are with a system exactly like yours; the trouble is that if you ask about systems exactly like yours, chances are you'll get zero answers. The fact that SuSE has a relatively flexible installer doesn't help you here because it decreases the probability of identical systems.

Alternatively, you could ask about an install with a 'bare' system if you think that you are going to add a relatively controlled set of 'extras', but I'm not sure how meaningful that is.

As an example of how difficult it can be (on a 10.3 system; a laptop) I have / and /home partitions ; /uses 9.7 G, but I am sure when I installed it, it was under 5 G, so roughly it has doubled since original installation (and that's with what seemed like a pretty full installation at the time). Today, /usr alone is larger than / was at install.

But then, I have installed every GUI going (nearly) and, in some cases, I have duplicate similar applications because I needed to asses the capabilities (I really don't actually use multiple word processors or spreadsheets, but I needed to look at them all, to be sure of the relative advantages and disadvantages and I rarely uninstall anything at all; stuff only goes at an OS upgrade); If I now did a fresh install, it would be somewhat slimmer, but probably would again grow over time.

If I were you, I would be rather concerned about anything that, if it grew by 5 or 10%, would cause a problem because I would want more margin than that.

Here is some information on my machine. I'm using 11.0 and kde with pretty well all the default items including Firefox, the Gimp and Open Office.

:~> df -k
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb5 2395540 1202636 1071216 53% /
udev 480652 184 480468 1% /dev
/dev/sdb7 9131740 3318948 5348920 39% /usr
/dev/sdb8 2016016 260824 1652780 14% /var
/dev/sdb10 5194436 141612 4788960 3% /usr/local
/dev/sdb11 2110936 436156 1567548 22% /opt
/dev/sdb12 474440 18517 431426 5% /tmp

For a further breakdown of the / partition you can see that I've got an awful lot under /root (it was a surprise to me as well!). The sizes are in k.

13408 boot
30804 etc
8588 lib64
582356 root
0 sys
12856 sbin
7468 bin
184 dev
139256 lib

Hope this helps.

Chilli

One version of Normal

I installed openSUSE 11.0 KDE 3.5 with what the installer considered a standard installation for a new system(minus games) having 2GB RAM and a 500GB HDD; swap 2GB, / 20GB, /home the rest. The installation initially occupied about 5GB on /, with about 2GB on /home. It has grown to about 6GB on /, while /home increased markedly with all my content files. On an older system with 512MB RAM and a 40GB HDD the proposed installations disposition was somewhat less swap, 10GB for /, the remaining /home.

I remember reading that a management system such as Yast wants room to download and implement packages wherever and however deployed, and therefor will group all operating files on one partition, only dividing the OS from its content, that is my music, letters, etc., on /home.

Thanks for the info, thorkelljarl.

Now that I have installed openSuse 11.1 myself, here is the answer to my own question:

I chose these partition sizes:

After choosing a more or less full install with just KDE 3.5, no Gnome and most suggested applications including OpenOffice, Gimp and other large packages, the installation procedure told me it could NOT proceed because there wasn't enough room in the / mount point. It was 17 (seventeen) Megabytes short!

Heck, I wasn't going to resize and format partitions all over again. So I removed a few packages from my selection, especially the big ones that are not essential to the system, like graphics packages. I ended up with 23 Mb free in the / mount point. Suse finished the installation with no problems.

After the first boot, I moved /opt to /usr/opt and symlinked it to /opt like I always do. That freed up 297 Mb in the / mount point so I could easily install all the "fluff" I had removed initially. The move paid off since I really do NOT need any more space in the / mount point. Here is my current disk usage right now:

And here is the breakdown of the / mount point disk usage:

I would move lib into /usr as well if it weren't for /usr/lib... :-\

I've been running Slackware on a 4.9 Gb partition for 3 years and it never got full. I've always had at least 500 Mb to spare, more usually around 1.2 Gb. So I think it's fine the way it is. My only concern now is the notably heavier use that Suse makes of the /var directory in comparison with Slackware. Let's see how that works out after some time. :-\

Thanks for all the attention so far.