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Hmmm, that's news. I thought the downloadable version would be a full blown SUSE
Downloadambe version of SuSE is the same as commercial with exception of tech support.
OpenSuSE does not include commercial software.
OpenSeSE is not the same as downloadable version of SuSE.
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What does no support for multimedia mean? As in unable to play commercial DVDs and needing codecs?
yes, you would have to find all components in the net OpenSuSE does not have it.
It is essentially the pain in the butt I had here. As you can see from reading that, everything is solvable with a YaST repository and some patience. BTW, I downloaded the SuSE 10 DVD eval edition. Did I lose out on anything?
BTW, I downloaded the SuSE 10 DVD eval edition. Did I lose out on anything?
No.
Some software is not on DVD Eval (but you can install it from SUSE 10 repositories on Novell servers)
The only thing missing is tech support (90 days free for install problems)
Hi all
I have been watching the posts and there seems to be a lot of guessing going on, with Netware & SuSE story or should I say Novell/SuSE direction.
Netware is not dead until 2010 (6.5 not supported after 2010) by this time its will have changed from eDirectory running on Netware to eDirectory running on SuSE OES (OES 2 will be released Q4 JULY) The core or networking functionality of Netware will just change the OS it sits on, tools & utils will be different but everything else is as normal.
If your looking for a eDirectory solution, with a Novell client authentication, drive mappings etc then SuSE OES is what you need, not SuSE SLES. All the other SuSE SLES 8, 9, and 10 are just Linux Servers.
And SuSE SLED 9, 10, 10.1, and 10.2 are only Linux Desktops.
One of the posts I read said SuSE SLES is more suit for home users.??? Wrong.??? if you needed to have quick LDAP queries, or run a DirXLM drivers between network or TREE for SYnc'ing or Auth reasons, no other Distro can handle the job as well.
I've been working with Netware for 16 years and SuSE OES & SLES for 3 years, and find SuSE SLES more stable, and good fun to work with. And the move from Netware to OES will be almost seamless.
If anyone has any question feel free to respond.
Novell Netware is not dead it has Evolved, & eDirectory is bleeding edge & (AD microsoft) Acting-directory is a cheap clone.
Hi all
I have been watching the posts and there seems to be a lot of guessing going on, with Netware & SuSE story or should I say Novell/SuSE direction.
Netware is not dead until 2010 (6.5 not supported after 2010) by this time its will have changed from eDirectory running on Netware to eDirectory running on SuSE OES (OES 2 will be released Q4 JULY) The core or networking functionality of Netware will just change the OS it sits on, tools & utils will be different but everything else is as normal.
If your looking for a eDirectory solution, with a Novell client authentication, drive mappings etc then SuSE OES is what you need, not SuSE SLES. All the other SuSE SLES 8, 9, and 10 are just Linux Servers.
And SuSE SLED 9, 10, 10.1, and 10.2 are only Linux Desktops.
One of the posts I read said SuSE SLES is more suit for home users.??? Wrong.??? if you needed to have quick LDAP queries, or run a DirXLM drivers between network or TREE for SYnc'ing or Auth reasons, no other Distro can handle the job as well.
I've been working with Netware for 16 years and SuSE OES & SLES for 3 years, and find SuSE SLES more stable, and good fun to work with. And the move from Netware to OES will be almost seamless.
If anyone has any question feel free to respond.
Novell Netware is not dead it has Evolved, & eDirectory is bleeding edge & (AD microsoft) Acting-directory is a cheap clone.
I'm confused. I want to replace my home server running windows 2003, exchange, IIS, Active Directory, DNS, DHCP, and terminal services with a linux server.
Is opensuse going to be able to do that? Or is it intended to be a desktop?
I'm confused. I want to replace my home server running windows 2003, exchange, IIS, Active Directory, DNS, DHCP, and terminal services with a linux server.
Is opensuse going to be able to do that? Or is it intended to be a desktop?
Hi
In response to your post, remembering I said there is a SuSE SLES (Server) SuSE SLED (Desktop)& SuSE OES. a Server bundled with Netware components.
It will do any you want out-of-the-box "except Exchange, IIS & AD", SLES & OES will run your DNS, DHCP, for the other stuff, replaced AD with eDirectory, Exchange with Groupwise or a Linux mail Server, and IIS with Apache 2.
I'm unsure is there is a version of Exchange for Linux, and I think there are other mail server for linux available.
Another great thing about eDirectory is you can run multible instances of eDirectory on the one Server, great for testing.
I hope that this clear up your questions.
I am a Linux newbie and have chosen Suse/Novell 10.0 Enterprise Edition which came with "SuSE Linux Bible" I have bought the parts to build a new computer to learn on. I checked to make sure all the hardware has been tested on this version. I have some Windows DVD programs that I hope to modify to work on this system. I have both PTA & SATS drives and mainboard is a Gigabyte GA-K8N51GMF-RH, which was hard to find. I will be using AMD Sempron 64 3200 CPU. I have never posited here so thought that I would introduce myself here since this thread is about the different releases. I am sure everyone will se some questions when T start.
I am a Linux newbie and have chosen Suse/Novell 10.0 Enterprise Edition which came with "SuSE Linux Bible" I have bought the parts to build a new computer to learn on. I checked to make sure all the hardware has been tested on this version. I have some Windows DVD programs that I hope to modify to work on this system. I have both PTA & SATS drives and mainboard is a Gigabyte GA-K8N51GMF-RH, which was hard to find. I will be using AMD Sempron 64 3200 CPU. I have never posited here so thought that I would introduce myself here since this thread is about the different releases. I am sure everyone will se some questions when T start.
You might have better luck downloading the 5 cds for SuSE 10.2 from http://en.opensuse.org/Released_Version, then setting up the first two repositories listed at the bottom of the page in YAST -> Software sources. I believe you can download most eveything Enterprise has that openSuSe doesn't from there.
I don't get what Novell is doing. Is all SuSE going to be open source and free from now on or will there be two versions (open and professional)? If it's the latter, what will be the difference? Will OpenSuSE quality be up to the standards of current suse professional editions? Thanks.
Cheers!
I think there will be some open source with SuSE but the baulk of it will have a Support fee.
If your looking at setting up a Server for Commercial use, and require support you will need some
I believe SLES 9 is open source, and its rock solid, the only difference between 9 & 10 is the GUI & a bigger Driver database. I also think there is no difference between the Server 10 & Desktop 10, except Desktop 10.x has games and more fun stuff.
You can download any version of SuSE as a Eval (fully fucnional) its says 60 days what happens then possibly nothing, no support.
All said and done, wait a year and Novell/SuSE will be force into making a choice, To sell eDirectory to Microsoft (god help us all) or start pouring money into SuSE and Disolve Novell and create a One-Stop-Networking-Solution.
To add Multimedia abilities to SuSE. Basically, you are going to load a file called libdvdcss to add DVD decryption. You will load a file call w32codecs-all for MP3 and other media files and you will be upgrading your version of xine video player. This is all done by adding in software installation sources and perhaps in the case of libdvdcss, downloading the rpm and installing it manually. Everything you need to know about adding in multimedia abilities to SuSE is in this forum.
I was a Netware Engineer from 1988 to 96, what was then called a systems supervisor. And I held a CNE 2X/3X, what is now called an NCE.
With that in mind, how different is this SUSE from the OLD Netware? Do things like Bindaries/NDS and NLM's still exist? Syscon... Pconsole.... And most of it can be downloaded? Or does it look and feel more like Linux now.
I was a Netware Engineer from 1988 to 96, what was then called a systems supervisor. And I held a CNE 2X/3X, what is now called an NCE.
With that in mind, how different is this SUSE from the OLD Netware? Do things like Bindaries/NDS and NLM's still exist? Syscon... Pconsole.... And most of it can be downloaded? Or does it look and feel more like Linux now.
Thanks!
Steve
That's a good point to clear up, I found moving from Netware to SuSE very easy. There is only two ways to administer a SuSE/eDir network, the low end admin tasks are web based apps like iMonitor & iManager. But the high end engineer stuff like repairs, diags, traces network trouble shooting etc, are Linux eDir/NDS command line driven. To finish up by saying, if you do not understand or have not touched on eDirectory/Identity Management, it can become over-whelming. I think networking (NetWare) 10 years ago was so easy and straight forward, now it keeps me up at nights, because everyone wants to make it over complicated, for no reason but they can.
Thanks for the reply. I was wondering if I was going to get one.
I don't recall it being too easy. Often kept us up all night back then too. I really do look back fondly on those days. I still consider it my favorite OS. I sadly shut down the last NW 4 server I supported a few months ago. QuickBooks Pro 2009 came out with new restrictions on how the shared database files are accessed, making it impossible to run on anything except MS. Which is really unfortunate, as I'm thinking a modern Suse server is a killer database server. I hope Novell lives long and prospers.
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