Hi boys !

How is kde 4 in suse 11 ?

I don't mean the graphic aspect of kde 4,i'm interested only in stability and hardware compatibility,i tried a live with kde4,a kubuntu or a mint one,and i liked the gui.

Is kde 4 already stable enough ? the only reason making me moving to suse 11 from 10.3 is that i have random crashes between amule and ktorrent which make my pc hang

Does kde4 crashes or hang sometimes

In the case,i'd better make a fresh install instead than an update,hadn't i ?


Cheers

All I can say I use KDe4 and suse11 from the time it come out
Up until now I have no crash and for me every thing works out of the box
But I am just a common user


all the best

Thank you very much !

So i'll give suse 11 a try

Hi

I downloaded CDLive from OpenSuSE 11.0 64 Bits to check it and it hangs frequently.

I don't want to use it until this issue is solved. Because you cannot do nothing. Is a hard hang (caps locks does not blink when you press the key). No response to any key.

I'm using OpenSuSE 10.2 without any problem (I rebooted it self just two times in two years more or less).

I don't know if this issue is about only the 64 bits version or not.

Regards

Well I use 64 bits version.
I stay by my statement before every thing works including the blinking LD when you press the caps lock
Is a working caps lock LD the most important thing a working distro should do

all the best

I don't think that is stable enough.
Many problems can be found when i try to use it.

Regards,
Bryan Yu
http://lifestory.moqin.com/

I didn't said that!!

I just said that when the LiveCD OpenSuSE 11.0 64 Bits hangs is a hard hang, I mean I don't get any answer from any key. Sometimes, the system hangs, but you can press CTRL+ALT+SysReq and try to know why and where it hanged. But, when the caps lock doesn't switch the led, the computer is dead!.

Of course, the CAPS LOCK works fine when the LiveCD OpenSuSE 64Bits is working fine!!!! ;-)

Maybe the problem is with my hardware, because you don't have any problem with it, but OpenSuSE 10.2 32 Bits works fine. It never hangs and I just remember two or three warm reboots, but this could be because the power cable wasn't full plugged. I plugged it correctly and never happen again.

Then, I will say that LiveCD OpenSuSE 11.0 64 Bits is very unstable with my hardware. It hard hang after half hour running more or less.

I like Linux and Open Source programs philosophy, but when some of them doesn't work I will say that is not good. There are Open Source programs excellent, but others are a botched job and I don't mind to say it. if LiveCD OpenSuSE 11.0 64 Bits is unstable with my hardware I will say it. Positive criticism is good help to fix the problem faster. I hope Novell fix this issue soon. If not, I will use another Linux distribution 64 Bits.

Regards.

Hi,
Me too I am using SUSE 11.0 from the very begining. I have no serious problems, no hangs/ freezes as I have had with SUSE 10.3. The only problem I had was that I need to reboot each time I started my system in the morning or when I switched it off completely. Now even that problem is gone, I think after upgrading the kernels to the latest version 2.6.25.9-3-default x86_64. The system is now openSUSE 11.0.42 (x86_64) Alpha0.

I prefer to use the install CD
I myself has too much troubles with Live CDs
IF I have no choice than I had to use A Live Cd

all the best

Hi there

I had some issues -- mainly on a laptop with KDE 4.
There were a number of other glitches which I've posted elsewhere things like the stupid touchpad would cause my cursor to randomly jump making data entry impossible, and the automatic software updates looping -- i.e retrieving and re-installing the same packages over and over again.

RDP (Remote desktop) in KDE 4 was also flakey (you need this if you have to connect to remote Windows Machines / servers).

KDE 3.5 is fine and stable and works well with SUSE 11

I'd stick with KDE 3.5 (option to install KDE 3.5 instead of 4 is available from the DVD). You can add KDE 4 apps when available and then when KDE 4.1 is released just install it then.

That's my advice but if you haven't had any problems then try 4.0

Once I've installed the system I like to use it rather than tinker with it so I prefer a bit more stable stuff (KDE 3.5) rather than leading edge technology.

Incidentally not a KDE per say related topic but if you use LVC (DVD / Video player) from Videolan or the modified XINE + KAFFEINE from Packman you'll have to switch the COMPIZ desktop effects off or you'll only get a blank screen. I don't think this is related to specific video boards but is a general problem. Same with the TV application KDETV if you have a TV card in your system.

VMWARE WORKSTATION also has a problem with SUSE 11.0 (not per se KDE 4). There is a module that allows you to cut and paste between a Virtual machine and the Host. However this is not a critical piece of software and the rest of VMWARE works fine (you can still use any form of networking including HOST ONLY) to access Virtual Machine files from the host (and vice versa).

The error you get is that the module doesn't like the latest C compiler shipped with 11.0 but needs the one from 10.3. Just ignore this message -- vmware will fix this soon enough.

Cheers

-K

Thank svery much to all you,boys !

I understand,the distros always work better in desktosp than in notebooks as hardware recognition

So i'll think i'll move to suse 11on the amd desktop and install kde 4 and all its updates/patches just after the main installation to see how it works and how much stable it is really at the end,if i should encounter problems i will reinstall the 11 but with kde 3,all i want and i need is a stable system,if the gui it's nice it's better but what i'm looking for is a stable os in ìtself 'cos i leave my home desktop pc turned on and downloading stuff with amule and ktorrent while i'm at work in hospital...

I too have always had in each distro with kde the black screen problem with Vlc and other players you mentioned if compiz was on..

I hate Vmware and programs like that,the only one i use is Microsoft Virtual Pc 2007 in Win Xp in the desktop and in 2 notebooks and Win Vista in a notebook to run a small win 98 se installation to still play half-life 1 ( 1998 !!!! ) and Dylan Dog:Horror LunaPark (1999) which don't run in anything newer.

Actually,I use Linux as a server,for work and multimedia and still keep Win only to play some videogames..But Linus is THE OS !

And i've introduced my girlfriend-almost wife-( we are making some money to get married as soon as it's possible )- to Linux so much that her too is going to use for serious use of the Pc only Linux.

See you soon !

Cheers

Slightly off topic but in answer to your "hating" programs like vmware etc it's usually the only way to keep older stuff running on modern hardware.

For example I have a Graphical plotter at home which can only work with the old Windows NT driver (fortunately this driver can be loaded on to XP).

The company that made the equipment has long since gone out of business or stopped making the hardware.

Without programs such as vmware or equivalent you would have a terrible time making such hardware work --especially on new machines which are usually only supplied with VISTA (ugh I really hate that OS -- slow and ponderous) or Apple software (quite good but incompatible also with my hardware).

Using a virtual machine allows you to continue using old "legacy" hardware on brand spanking new machines for long after the original vendor has ceased to supply support -- and in these days of rising shipping, manufacturing and other costs we can't simply go out and buy new equipment (especially when the old stuff is still functioning 100%).

Running some Windows stuff under WINE is a partial solution but is always a bit "touch and go".

What I'm hoping for is that the XEN Virtualisation now built in to most distros might be *hackable* or modified if it can be done reasonably simply to allow Windows Virtual Machines to run .

I think there have been some partial successes in this area.

Incidentally also if you work with a largish corporation the chances are that your "corporate" machine is also a Virtual Machine stuck in some huge Server Farm. Some companies now supply the entire hardware infrastructure for several businesses --this is done by having many virtual virtual servers - one or more for each customer.

I'm afraid today you can't get away from the whole concept of Virtual Machines -- and very useful they are too.

Cheers

-K

I agree with you,they're very,very useful-and infact i use this win 98 se installation also to use sometimes an old scanner Agfa e25 with the notebook with Vista 'cause i have already a new scanner at home in a all-in-one Epson printer and i didn't want to throw the agfa one into the rubbish-it still works perfectly but has been already not well supported since win 2000-and no distro could manage it well enough and i don't like to waste money uselessly.

Apart this,i don't like the virtual machines 'cos they can't manage 3d acceleration and anyway not all programs can anyway run in them so well as they could be.

Anyway,I.ve tried Xen in Fedora 8-now i use the 9th-for curiosity to try a virtual installation of Solaris 10 and Xubuntu 7.04 and it worked well,it could be an interesting and easy-to use work.

I'm a a Doctor in Medicine making the specialization of Gerontology so i just need the Pc for working reasons and to get some relax when i come back home from work.

That's all.

HI and thank you..besides all the problems everyone can encounter in the daily use of Linux,the forum is also a place where to make some speech and give one to each other any opinion about anything..we are not only Linux users,but also common people,aren't we ?


Ciao !

Hi

Talking about vmware makes my this question. Did you try to use VirtualBox (http://virtualbox.org/)?

Is a very good Open Source Software under the terms of the GNU General Public License (GPL).

That's all

Regards

VBOX is fine but slightly unstable currently.
VMWARE is still the nr one supplier in Virtualisation software.

Microsoft Virtual PC although free only (what a surprise) runs on Windows - and running a Windows Virtual Machine on Windows does raise some questions as to why on Earth would you want to do that. I only use Windows when I absolutely have to and then run it on a Linux box as a Virtual machine.

VMPLAYER is free and has the same robusteness that vmware workstation has. However vmware workstation is quite quite expensive.

Vmplayer will only run existing Virtual machines --you can't define / create new one's.

However a get around is to use QEMU. This will allow you to create vmware compatable virtual machine disks and you can also edit the configuration file to create / modify vmware virtual machines.

http://johnbokma.com/mexit/2005/10/2...indows-xp.html

While the link uses Windows QEMU is also available for Linux. After installation of QEMU the method of creating a VM is the same. - If you want a bit of fun use a Windows VM with a Windows version of QEMU to create a new VM --then boot your new VM under Linux.

(Most distros now have NTFS read AND write - install packages fuse and ntfs-3g - usually installed by default anyway).

cheers

-k