LinuxQuestions.org
Welcome to the most active Linux Forum on the web.
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Other *NIX Forums > Solaris / OpenSolaris
User Name
Password
Solaris / OpenSolaris This forum is for the discussion of Solaris, OpenSolaris, OpenIndiana, and illumos.
General Sun, SunOS and Sparc related questions also go here. Any Solaris fork or distribution is welcome.

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 07-04-2012, 07:31 AM   #1
jokar.mohsen
Member
 
Registered: Jul 2008
Location: Tehran
Posts: 441

Rep: Reputation: 22
Post Difference between Solaris and Linux.


Hello ALL.
What difference between Solaris and Linux is exist?
Oracle buy it but not destroy it ,Oracle have Linux but why Solaris must be exist?

Thanks.
Regards.
 
Old 07-04-2012, 07:50 AM   #2
cliffordw
Member
 
Registered: Jan 2012
Location: South Africa
Posts: 503

Rep: Reputation: 189Reputation: 189
Some of the reasons commercial UNIX variants exist, include:
* Support for specific hardware (like SPARC processors in the case of Solaris or PA-RISC processors & HP-UX - not sure if current Linux distros are available for these?)
* Vendor support for the OS (also available for Enterprise Linux distros, but arguably easier to provide for proprietary OS's by vendors like Sun, IBM & HP who make both the hardware & OS - less hardware devices to support)
* Application support - many commercial applications are unfortunately not yet available on Linux
 
Old 07-04-2012, 07:57 AM   #3
pixellany
LQ Veteran
 
Registered: Nov 2005
Location: Annapolis, MD
Distribution: Arch/XFCE
Posts: 17,802

Rep: Reputation: 741Reputation: 741Reputation: 741Reputation: 741Reputation: 741Reputation: 741Reputation: 741
Another perspective:
Unix was developed long before the concept of OpenSource Software came along. Companies developed proprietary versions of Unix + applications.

Next came open source---I think the real beginning was the GNU project started by Richard Stallman. The GNU project developed open source "workalikes" for the common Unix utilities, and started work on an open source kernel.

Then came Linux---as they say, the rest is history.

The business models currently co-exist. we have Solaris because there is a market. We also have Linux because there is a market
 
Old 07-05-2012, 09:57 AM   #4
kebabbert
Member
 
Registered: Jul 2005
Posts: 489

Rep: Reputation: 45
Linux is a copy of Unix. Unix is older, more mature, more stable, scales better, etc.

Why a bad copy Linux must exist?
 
Old 07-05-2012, 09:32 PM   #5
jefro
Moderator
 
Registered: Mar 2008
Posts: 20,156

Rep: Reputation: 3180Reputation: 3180Reputation: 3180Reputation: 3180Reputation: 3180Reputation: 3180Reputation: 3180Reputation: 3180Reputation: 3180Reputation: 3180Reputation: 3180
Unix was not originally used on PC computers. Linux was about the only way other than Berkley to run anything other than dos/windows.
 
Old 07-06-2012, 04:25 AM   #6
kebabbert
Member
 
Registered: Jul 2005
Posts: 489

Rep: Reputation: 45
Quote:
Originally Posted by jefro View Post
Unix was not originally used on PC computers. Linux was about the only way other than Berkley to run anything other than dos/windows.
There was Unix on PC, before Linux.

"Why must Linux be exist? "
 
Old 07-06-2012, 05:46 AM   #7
pixellany
LQ Veteran
 
Registered: Nov 2005
Location: Annapolis, MD
Distribution: Arch/XFCE
Posts: 17,802

Rep: Reputation: 741Reputation: 741Reputation: 741Reputation: 741Reputation: 741Reputation: 741Reputation: 741
Quote:
Originally Posted by kebabbert View Post
Linux is a copy of Unix....
I don't think so. Most "Unix" is (or was) proprietary code---Linux is usually described as a "clone" or "workalike".


Quote:
There was Unix on PC, before Linux.
Which PC was that?

Quote:
Why a bad copy Linux must exist?
"Why must Linux be exist? "
What's your point here?
 
Old 07-06-2012, 07:14 AM   #8
kebabbert
Member
 
Registered: Jul 2005
Posts: 489

Rep: Reputation: 45
Quote:
Originally Posted by pixellany View Post
What's your point here?
My point is to answer the OP. He wrote:
"...but why Solaris must be exist?..."

My answer is: "but why Linux must be exist?" as it is a clone (not copy, thanks for the correction). Why not use the original: Unix?
 
Old 07-06-2012, 08:31 AM   #9
jlliagre
Moderator
 
Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Outside Paris
Distribution: Solaris 11.4, Oracle Linux, Mint, Ubuntu/WSL
Posts: 9,781

Rep: Reputation: 481Reputation: 481Reputation: 481Reputation: 481Reputation: 481
Quote:
Originally Posted by jokar.mohsen View Post
What difference between Solaris and Linux is exist?
A short answer can be Solaris is an operating system while Linux is a kernel.
Quote:
Oracle buy it but not destroy it
Why would Oracle want to destroy Solaris ?
 
Old 07-06-2012, 08:38 AM   #10
jlliagre
Moderator
 
Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Outside Paris
Distribution: Solaris 11.4, Oracle Linux, Mint, Ubuntu/WSL
Posts: 9,781

Rep: Reputation: 481Reputation: 481Reputation: 481Reputation: 481Reputation: 481
Quote:
Originally Posted by pixellany View Post
Which PC was that?
Unix on x86 PCs predates Linux, sometimes by more than a decade.
Have a look at Xenix, SCO and Interactive Unix.
Of course, Minix, the early Linux development platform, was also released years before Linux and was running on standard PCs.
 
Old 07-06-2012, 10:49 AM   #11
jefro
Moderator
 
Registered: Mar 2008
Posts: 20,156

Rep: Reputation: 3180Reputation: 3180Reputation: 3180Reputation: 3180Reputation: 3180Reputation: 3180Reputation: 3180Reputation: 3180Reputation: 3180Reputation: 3180Reputation: 3180
If you look at Xenix the first reported x86 PC was "Altos shipped a version for their Intel 8086 based computers early in 1982,"

You might be trying to suggest small industrial computers ran some type of unix which is true. The term PC or the original PC is what most people believe to be the start of the type systems we use. The class of x86 systems common in homes is not the type anyone had 10 years before DOS 1.x
 
Old 07-06-2012, 06:08 PM   #12
jlliagre
Moderator
 
Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Outside Paris
Distribution: Solaris 11.4, Oracle Linux, Mint, Ubuntu/WSL
Posts: 9,781

Rep: Reputation: 481Reputation: 481Reputation: 481Reputation: 481Reputation: 481
Okay, "more than a decade" was a little bit exaggerated, make that between 8 and 6 years.

Here are some straight facts:

The term PC defines what was born in 1981 under the IBM PC name and then defined a de facto industry standard. This standard hopefully evolved during its life, and still does.

Unix System V was ported to the 286 and 386 PCs by Microport in 1985.

Xenix was ported to the IBM-PC architecture (16 bit, 4.7 MHZ 8086) in 1983, to the still 16 bit PC-AT 80286 in 1985 and to the 32 bit 80386 in 1987.

Interactive Unix was first released in 1985 (8086) and was later running on 80386 PCs.

The Linux development started 1991, so there is no doubt Unix was already available for the kind of machines Linux was initially developed for.

Of course, these commercial Unix implementations were too expensive (except Microport) to be popular for home (hobbyist) users. This, in addition to the 16 bit Minix lack of performance, was one of the reasons explaining why Linux took off.
 
Old 07-06-2012, 06:17 PM   #13
jlliagre
Moderator
 
Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Outside Paris
Distribution: Solaris 11.4, Oracle Linux, Mint, Ubuntu/WSL
Posts: 9,781

Rep: Reputation: 481Reputation: 481Reputation: 481Reputation: 481Reputation: 481
Quote:
Originally Posted by jefro View Post
The class of x86 systems common in homes is not the type anyone had 10 years before DOS 1.x
??
10 years before DOS 1.x, i.e. around 1972, nobody had computers at home, even hand held calculators were very expensive at that time. The x86 was announced in 1978.
 
Old 07-07-2012, 09:30 AM   #14
jokar.mohsen
Member
 
Registered: Jul 2008
Location: Tehran
Posts: 441

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 22
Good.
Excuse me is Solaris free?
Is Solaris Kernel vs with Linux kernel?
Solaris can be run Linux program?
Can i implement a network with full feature with Solaris?
Solaris can be communication with Linux or Windows?

Please give me more information.


Thanks.
 
Old 07-07-2012, 05:21 PM   #15
jlliagre
Moderator
 
Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Outside Paris
Distribution: Solaris 11.4, Oracle Linux, Mint, Ubuntu/WSL
Posts: 9,781

Rep: Reputation: 481Reputation: 481Reputation: 481Reputation: 481Reputation: 481
Quote:
Originally Posted by jokar.mohsen View Post
Excuse me is Solaris free?
There used to be a free and open source version (OpenSolaris). There is a free fork named Illumos on top of which are built several distributions (OpenIndiana, Illumian, SmartOS, StormOS, ...). The commercial version is Solaris 11, have a look at its download page for details about its license and especially the export restrictions that looks to be a show stopper in your case.
Quote:
Is Solaris Kernel vs with Linux kernel?
Both have their strengths and weaknesses.
Quote:
Solaris can be run Linux program?
For a short period of time, this used to be true but not anymore. Programs need to be at least recompiled and sometimes ported.
Quote:
Can i implement a network with full feature with Solaris?
Hopefully. Solaris was created by a company whose motto was "The network is the computer".
Quote:
Solaris can be communication with Linux or Windows?
Hopefully too.
 
  


Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
difference btwn Solaris and Linux? LinuxSathish Linux - Newbie 4 01-31-2011 09:37 AM
difference in SSH in linux and solaris happyguy1 Programming 2 11-01-2010 08:46 AM
Difference between Solaris vs. Linux?? hulk321 Linux - Software 2 11-22-2008 10:47 AM
difference between linux and solaris ganeshjeyaraman Linux - General 8 06-19-2006 06:38 AM
Solaris vs. Linux - What's the difference? zzzt Linux - General 7 10-20-2003 01:12 PM

LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Other *NIX Forums > Solaris / OpenSolaris

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:51 PM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration