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Old 08-15-2016, 12:43 PM   #16
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Hello,

As K4rolis said, try to disable nouveau driver. You can do that by passing nomodeset in kernel boot arguments.

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Thank you -- will try this!
 
Old 08-15-2016, 01:42 PM   #17
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Freaksta --

I am running 14.2 kernel-huge-4.4.17 on a Sager NP-9778-S and everything is working fine for me.

I started out on Feb 8 with huge-4.4.1 and I've kept up to date via `installpkg` as Pat has released new Kernels.

I had some early issues with lilo and trying to boot from my Samsung NVMe / PCIe SDD so I installed root on a Samsung 850 Pro SDD instead ( /dev/sda3 ).

I did have to disable nouveau to get to runlevel 3 ( I appended nomodeset to the kernel parms as recommended by SeB ).

Once I was able to boot runlevel 3, I did an `installpkg xf86-video-nouveau-blacklist-noarch-1.txz` from the ~/slackware-14.2-64/extra/xf86-video-nouveau-blacklist/ directory.

Then I installed Alien Bob's Multilib.

Finally, I was able to install NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-VVV.vv.run, both 64-bit and 32-bit ( today I am at VVV.vv = 367.35 ).

Looking at your dmesg vs mine, aside from a few HW and memory diffs, the most obvious differences are the nouveau lines at 5.297736 secs and then the block of lines starting at 7.277448 sec.

HTH and please let us know.

-- kjh

Last edited by kjhambrick; 08-15-2016 at 01:45 PM. Reason: oops nomodeset was a kernel parm on first boot
 
Old 08-15-2016, 01:51 PM   #18
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Freaksta --

I am running 14.2 kernel-huge-4.4.17 on a Sager NP-9778-S and everything is working fine for me.

I started out on Feb 8 with huge-4.4.1 and I've kept up to date via `installpkg` as Pat has released new Kernels.

I had some early issues with lilo and trying to boot from my Samsung NVMe / PCIe SDD so I installed root on a Samsung 850 Pro SDD instead ( /dev/sda3 ).

I did have to disable nouveau to get to runlevel 3 ( I appended nomodeset to the kernel parms as recommended by SeB ).

Once I was able to boot runlevel 3, I did an `installpkg xf86-video-nouveau-blacklist-noarch-1.txz` from the ~/slackware-14.2-64/extra/xf86-video-nouveau-blacklist/ directory.

Then I installed Alien Bob's Multilib.

Finally, I was able to install NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-VVV.vv.run, both 64-bit and 32-bit ( today I am at VVV.vv = 367.35 ).

Looking at your dmesg vs mine, aside from a few HW and memory diffs, the most obvious differences are the nouveau lines at 5.297736 secs and then the block of lines starting at 7.277448 sec.

HTH and please let us know.

-- kjh
Interesting, thank you for the feedback.

I'm going to try a different installation media (hardware). I'm also installing on Samsung 850 Pro SSD.

I will blacklist nouveau and see if that helps, but traditionally speaking, the nvidia installer should still launch (it's NCURSES I think) and should attempt to disable nouveau automatically.

I'll let you know!
 
Old 08-15-2016, 02:13 PM   #19
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Sorry, but I think you're in the wrong thread.

This issue is post-boot.
Sorry, you said lilo and seemed to have issues with mbr, lilo, and where Slackware booted from. EFI requires elilo and you mentioned dual booting with Windows.

Anyway, I would remove the nouveau driver package (not the blacklisted one) and not allow updates to pull it back in.

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Old 08-15-2016, 02:26 PM   #20
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Sorry, you said lilo and seemed to have issues with mbr, lilo, and where Slackware booted from. EFI requires elilo and you mentioned dual booting with Windows.

Anyway, I would remove the nouveau driver package (not the blacklisted one) and not allow updates to pull it back in.

Oh, okay!

Thank you!
 
Old 08-15-2016, 02:36 PM   #21
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Freaksta --

Another difference I just now noticed in your dmesg is that you've got i915 ( Intel Video ) where I don't.

I was disappointed the other day that I didn't have Intel i915 because I wanted to play around with bumblebee.

I am running a Data Conversion so I can't reboot right now to investigate and I don't recall whether I disabled it in my BIOS or not but that may be causing you some grief with the NVidia Installer.

I don't know much about bumblebee ( which is why I wanted to play with it ) but maybe others do.

-- kjh
 
Old 08-15-2016, 02:42 PM   #22
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Freaksta --

Another difference I just now noticed in your dmesg is that you've got i915 ( Intel Video ) where I don't.

I was disappointed the other day that I didn't have Intel i915 because I wanted to play around with bumblebee.

I am running a Data Conversion so I can't reboot right now to investigate and I don't recall whether I disabled it in my BIOS or not but that may be causing you some grief with the NVidia Installer.

I don't know much about bumblebee ( which is why I wanted to play with it ) but maybe others do.

-- kjh
I'm learning about Bumblebee now. This was my next step on Slackware, as I don't want to run the NVIDIA 24/7. I'm having some issues on Debian (with bumblebee), and so I haven't gotten around to testing it on Slackware yet, but if I can get Slackware installed and running, Bumblebee is next. :-)
 
Old 08-15-2016, 05:56 PM   #23
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UPDATE:

Updated to -current but stayed with 14.2 kernel and now i can boot and load x.


Network manager is still cycling wireless up/down, and for some reason wicd isnt authenticating (bad pass, but its not.)

Havent tried nvidia, would like to get wireless up first.

Should i update kernel? If so, whats the best way?
 
Old 08-15-2016, 06:08 PM   #24
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Wicd resolved, must have been the router denying it.

Nvidia installed.

Making progress!
 
Old 08-15-2016, 06:18 PM   #25
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Okay... everything seems to be working fine, however I am now thoroughly confused.

In the past, I ran nvidia installer, it generated an xorg.conf file with 'nvidia' as the driver, and that just worked.

glxgears worked, everything just worked, though it was probably sucking a lot of power, pushing everthing through the main display.

So, at what point did that STOP WORKING?!

Now, my hardware has not changed.

So why did this process change, and how can I get my external monitor working?
 
Old 08-15-2016, 06:51 PM   #26
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Okay... everything seems to be working fine, however I am now thoroughly confused.

In the past, I ran nvidia installer, it generated an xorg.conf file with 'nvidia' as the driver, and that just worked.

glxgears worked, everything just worked, though it was probably sucking a lot of power, pushing everthing through the main display.

So, at what point did that STOP WORKING?!

Now, my hardware has not changed.

So why did this process change, and how can I get my external monitor working?
 
Old 08-16-2016, 06:25 AM   #27
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Good deal, Freaksta !

I am not sure what has changed with the NVidia-*.run Programs.

One difference with Slackware 14.2 and Current is that xorg-server is now at version 1.18 where my previous Laptop installed in 2011 ran 1.9.5

The Nvidia-*.run Blob does rewrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf on my system when I answer [Yes] in the ncurses dialog.

I don't recall anymore if I configured X before running NVidia the first time or not so YMMV ...

My latest /etc/X11/xorg.conf is attached.

HTH

-- kjh
Attached Files
File Type: txt xorg.conf.txt (1.8 KB, 15 views)
 
Old 08-16-2016, 06:57 AM   #28
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Good deal, Freaksta !

I am not sure what has changed with the NVidia-*.run Programs.

One difference with Slackware 14.2 and Current is that xorg-server is now at version 1.18 where my previous Laptop installed in 2011 ran 1.9.5

The Nvidia-*.run Blob does rewrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf on my system when I answer [Yes] in the ncurses dialog.

I don't recall anymore if I configured X before running NVidia the first time or not so YMMV ...

My latest /etc/X11/xorg.conf is attached.

HTH

-- kjh
What happens when you run:

lspci -nn | grep VGA

Do you get just nvidia, or nvidia + intel?
 
Old 08-16-2016, 07:09 AM   #29
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Good deal, Freaksta !

I am not sure what has changed with the NVidia-*.run Programs.

One difference with Slackware 14.2 and Current is that xorg-server is now at version 1.18 where my previous Laptop installed in 2011 ran 1.9.5

The Nvidia-*.run Blob does rewrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf on my system when I answer [Yes] in the ncurses dialog.

I don't recall anymore if I configured X before running NVidia the first time or not so YMMV ...

My latest /etc/X11/xorg.conf is attached.

HTH

-- kjh


PS, thank you for your help!
 
Old 08-16-2016, 07:41 AM   #30
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Freaksta --

Yes, all I see is the NVIDIA Entry.

Code:
# lspci -nn | grep VGA

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GM204M [GeForce GTX 970M] [10de:1618] (rev a1)
I've got an Intel i7-6700K so I thought the i915 should be there.

I don't recall anymore if I turned off the Intel i915 in my BIOS or not or if Sager somehow disabled it for me ( my Feb 8 Install Date seems like a long time ago now ).

But this is 'on my list' so I can play with bumblebee.

EDIT: You're welcome, I am learning a lot on LQ !

-- kjh
 
  


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