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Old 12-29-2021, 07:29 AM   #4111
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Black screen bug still there? I'm still on 5.15.0
 
Old 12-29-2021, 10:20 AM   #4112
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Black screen bug still there? I'm still on 5.15.0
The screen still blanks for 6 or 7 seconds after the BIOS check on 5.15.11 and 5.16-rc7.

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Old 12-29-2021, 03:37 PM   #4113
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The screen still blanks for 6 or 7 seconds after the BIOS check on 5.15.11 and 5.16-rc7.
Ditto for 5.15.12. The screen still goes blank for 6 - 7 seconds after the BIOS check.
 
Old 12-29-2021, 07:15 PM   #4114
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Ditto for 5.15.12. The screen still goes blank for 6 - 7 seconds after the BIOS check.
FWIW, I haven't experienced this on my two -current installations (on an old P4 desktop and Core 2 Duo laptop) using any of the 5.{12,13,14,15}.x kernels built by Pat since I started trying -current out. I suppose this issue somehow depends on the system running it. I'm not sure whether this helps much, but it seems relevant.
 
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Old 12-31-2021, 11:19 AM   #4115
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The blank screen on boot up has been reported on both AMD and Intel hardware, and systems using grub or lilo. I guess it is not consider a "problem" as there have been seven 5.15.rc releases, thirteen 5.15.x stable releases and seven 5.16-release candidates and nothing has been done.
 
Old 12-31-2021, 04:46 PM   #4116
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The blank screen on boot up has been reported on both AMD and Intel hardware, and systems using grub or lilo. I guess it is not consider a "problem" as there have been seven 5.15.rc releases, thirteen 5.15.x stable releases and seven 5.16-release candidates and nothing has been done.
I've got 5.15.10 running on 2 Laptops with Intel 7-6820HQ CPU's and 1 server/PC with an AMD FX-6300
No black screens though I did have 1 desktop responsiveness issue (no keyboard/mouse action) on 1 of the Intel's and the AMD

Services were still responding, but for the most part they were frozen desktop wise
 
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Old 12-31-2021, 08:53 PM   #4117
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FWIW: Twice since installing the 5.15.12 kernel and while streaming video in Firefox, I've been thrown back to the prompt (init 3). Just booted the 5.16-rc7 kernel and we'll see how it goes.
 
Old 12-31-2021, 09:09 PM   #4118
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On my pinebook pro I get a black screen that is clearly powered on after a fresh installation. The boot loader loads a bunch of output, but once the kernel starts booting, the screen goes off. The serial console is still accessible and so is a remote shell. I am building a 5.15.10 kernel to see if rolling back from 5.15.12 fixes this. None of my other arm machines have this problem. There are a few other things it could be though.

EDIT: It turned out to be something entirely different with the same result, black screen.

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Old 12-31-2021, 09:13 PM   #4119
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I'm on current AMD 4650U 5.15.12 and wayland .. have never had any black screen or crash issues.
 
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Old 01-02-2022, 05:12 PM   #4120
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5.16-rc8
Release Candidate 8, for the 5.16 "mainline" development kernel has been been made available for testing.

The tarball, https://git.kernel.org/torvalds/t/linux-5.16-rc8.tar.gz

Mr. Torvalds' announcement, http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/k...1.0/00319.html

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Old 01-03-2022, 12:45 AM   #4121
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https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...Kernel-Headers
 
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Old 01-03-2022, 03:12 AM   #4122
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The blank screen on boot up has been reported on both AMD and Intel hardware, and systems using grub or lilo. I guess it is not consider a "problem" as there have been seven 5.15.rc releases, thirteen 5.15.x stable releases and seven 5.16-release candidates and nothing has been done.
Only one of my machines (the only non-efi one) exhibited this. I got around it by adding a line to /etc/default/grub:

Code:
GRUB_GFXMODE=1920x1080x32
GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep
That last line tells grub to use the same graphics resolution for the initial (penguin) screen as it does for the grub menu screen. Efi machines (at least, mine) don't seem to need this, but my only remaining non-efi one did.

I have no idea why this works, but it did!

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Old 01-03-2022, 05:07 AM   #4123
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Greg K-H's response,
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This is "interesting", but how are you going to keep the
kernel/sched/per_task_area_struct_defs.h and struct task_struct_per_task
definition in sync? It seems that you manually created this (which is
great for testing), but over the long-term, trying to manually determine
what needs to be done here to keep everything lined up properly is going
to be a major pain.

That issue aside, I took a glance at the tree, and overall it looks like
a lot of nice cleanups. Most of these can probably go through the
various subsystem trees, after you split them out, for the "major" .h
cleanups. Is that something you are going to be planning on doing?
http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/k...1.0/00490.html
 
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Old 01-03-2022, 05:48 AM   #4124
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Maybe something will come out anyway
 
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Old 01-03-2022, 07:58 AM   #4125
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Only one of my machines (the only non-efi one) exhibited this. I got around it by adding a line to /etc/default/grub:

Code:
GRUB_GFXMODE=1920x1080x32
GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep
That last line tells grub to use the same graphics resolution for the initial (penguin) screen as it does for the grub menu screen. Efi machines (at least, mine) don't seem to need this, but my only remaining non-efi one did.

I have no idea why this works, but it did!

--
Pete
Is there similar for that option in Lilo?

I think the blank screen is due to some change in the VESA framebuffer, or something,
because if I boot in VGA mode (80x25), the kernel messages appear right after Lilo loads the kernel.
Any VESA resolution causes the blank screen delay.

I realized that, before the "long" blank screen delay, with the older kernels there was a delay too but it was something less than 2 seconds,
so before one starts thinking "hey, what is this blank screen delay?" kernel messages were showing already.



edit- long blank screen delay still happens with 5.16-rc8

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