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Hi FTIO, my understanding of your message is that: while using the Linux computer you are able to bring up the router's webpage. If I understand correctly, then this is great news and it proves that many things about the Linux computer and the router are functional. :-)
How many Ethernet ports does your router have? Is one of them marked "Internet", or something similar? In which port is the cable from the Linux machine plugged?
How many Ethernet ports does your modem have? What is/are it/they marked?
Since bringing up the router's webpage, have you kept the Linux computer and the router connected and running? If so, then please keep them running and connected.
Distribution: Slackware 15.0 x64, Slackware Live 15.0 x64
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Originally Posted by baumei;6095885On the Win7 laptop the ping test you ran was not quite the one I had in mind. I had intended [code
ping 192.168.1.1[/code] Please run the above command, and give me the result. In any case, the results from the ping test you did run make me wonder whether your Win7 laptop is running some firewall software. In my experience, the default configuration of the MicroSoft firewall is to block ping packets, and this may be why the ping test did not succeed. Is this laptop running some firewall software? If so, is it one piece of firewall software, or more than one? If more than one, then how many?
For the Linux computer and router, have they been connected and running since the ping test? If not, then please connect them as before, and start them up in the order specified before, and run again the ping test, and see that the ping test succeeds. When there has been a successful ping test between the Linux computer and the router, then as an ordinary user bring up a non-fancy web-browser (I suggest Konqueror). When you have a non-fancy web-browser running (What have you chosen?), then have it connect to: http://192.168.1.1/ Afterward, please tell me the result.
Okay, I redid the ping test on the win7 box and it turned out the same (I *did* go in and turned off the stock windows firewall. I have no other firewall software installed since I extremely rarely ever use(d) the win box to get online).
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C:\Users\mork>ping 192.168.1.1
Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:
General failure.
General failure.
General failure.
General failure.
Ping statistics for 192.168.1.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
C:\Users\mork>
Distribution: Slackware 15.0 x64, Slackware Live 15.0 x64
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Originally Posted by _peter
could you also share ?
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more /etc/resolv.conf
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head -2 /var/lib/slackpkg/ChangeLog.txt
and a screenshot of the network-manager setup form from your problematic Slackware 14.2 32 bits machine.
not working straight connected to the modem with a newly purchased network card does not make sense to me.
I don't use slackpkg, preferring just the stock Slackware pkgtool(s), so no changelog to see. The only software changes that have happened on here for quite some time are the updates to the slackware security list.
Here's a few screenshots from the slackware 14.2 64 bit, the slackware 14.1 32 bit system is on a different HDD and I rarely use it except to listen to music and have to reboot from 14.2 to get into it.
Distribution: Slackware 15.0 x64, Slackware Live 15.0 x64
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Hi FTIO, my understanding of your message is that: while using the Linux computer you are able to bring up the router's webpage. If I understand correctly, then this is great news and it proves that many things about the Linux computer and the router are functional. :-)
How many Ethernet ports does your router have? Is one of them marked "Internet", or something similar? In which port is the cable from the Linux machine plugged?
How many Ethernet ports does your modem have? What is/are it/they marked?
Since bringing up the router's webpage, have you kept the Linux computer and the router connected and running? If so, then please keep them running and connected.
No, I've not had the linux box still running, but it won't be too difficult to get back to it. No matter what I do, the linux box communicates with the router just fine and with any browser (I normally use Seamonkey, but also tried it with Konqueror and Firefox and Opera and they all worked fine bringing up the routers config webpage).
My router has 4 ports, one 'internet' port. I normally had the cable from the linux box plugged into #4, but have tried all three others, in case you were leading to that, heh heh.
The modem has only one ethernet port, a power plug port and the cable itself thing that the cable screws onto.
I only have the two cables, and I even tried switching those around on both boxes, but no difference...both cables are working fine.
Hi FTIO, I think it is unusual that the Win7 laptop was not able to ping the router. I have several ideas.
First, let us do a different test. Connect the Win7 laptop to the modem, and verify that it is able to communicate to at least some devices in the 'outside world'. When this is verified, then please run in a command prompt:
Hi FTIO, you read my mind, I was about to ask how many Ethernet cables you have, and whether there was a different behavior observed among them. :-)
After I see the result of the laptop <--> modem ipconfig test I will be wanting to do a test which involves the Linux computer and the router. So, please get them going again, and verify that the computer can ping the router.
thanks, can you also type and report these 2 command lines ?
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more /etc/resolv.conf
more /etc/udev/rules.d/*
in spite of looking not up to date, your network-manager settings seem to have a cloned mac address that may conflict with the dhcp on the modem or the router.
Hi FTIO, I agree with "_peter" about the cloned MAC address. In general, one must be VERY careful when cloning MAC addresses, or else weird network communication problems may result.
Is there a compelling reason for the Linux computer to be cloning a MAC address? If so, what is it? If not, then I suggest stopping the cloning.
Hi FTIO, a great many routers and modems have labels on them where the MAC address(es) in the device are listed. Please look for such labels on your router and modem, and tell me what you find.
Sometimes Ethernet MAC addresses are called by different names, such as: hardware address, HW address, and ethernet address. By whatever name, they usually have a common format ("xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx" where each 'x' can be one of {0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,a,b,c,d,e,f}), and an example of this can be seen in the screenshot of your NetworkManager's Wired tab/page.
hi baumei, maybe we can advise FTIO to delete his current "wired connection 1" and restart a fresh one from his network-manager graphical interface ?
he seems to know his way on the computer more than he admits : )
Hi "_peter", at this point I would not recommend deleting the existing "wired connection 1" out of NetworkManager. Currently, I think it is either fine, or fixable.
I agree, it does appear FTIO knows at least a fair amount about Linux and Windows and routers and such. :-) In my writing I am intending to include more than the minimum of information, so as to add to FTIO's body of knowledge.
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Okay guys, something *VERY* WTF has happened...
I just got back from taking a few things I could strap on to my motorcycle to the new place I'm trying to move to.
I turn on my phone (I use it pretty much only for emergencies only, so when I'm on the bike I don't want it eating the battery any at all) and plug it in to charge (even though it was at 98%, heh), but I happened to see the wifi icon had a tiny little 'x' on it.
So I loked into what was going on and for some reason it was not connected (my router does the wifi too...I think. meh).
Anyway, before I'd done this I was on the windows box and saw your messages about the cloned mac thing and looked at the network manager and just highlighted those numbers and 'deleted' them, so that all I could see were the lines where numbers and letter were/would be.
Then, I got into the routers webpage (I was just connected to the router only) and looked at the wireless tab and some other tab I think and saw it had wpa3 personal checkmarked. I don't remember checking that to use, but it's very possible I did some time in the past (of course), so I unchecked those, plugged the other cable into the modem (after unplugging the power then plugging it back in), and suddenly I'm on the 'net with my linux box!
It surely couldn't have been anything to do with the wifi setup on the router...could it? Or was it really as simple as just not having that mac clone thing turned on or being used (I don't remember messing with that ever either actually, since as I said I rarely ever have to mess with network manager)?
I really don't understand as much as you guys think I do, I just sort of know my way around and getting things done once someone gives me instructions on *how* to do something. I really do get easily confused though and I do things a *lot* better being shown first-hand over reading it (did that make sense?).
Anyway, I guess it's working again, but I'll make sure I get back on here as soon as possible if something happenes again. As a matter of fact, I think I'll do a reboot of the linux box just for fun and giggles and see if I can still get online after. Reckon I should also turn off then back on the router too, to try it out?
I really truly am grateful you guys helped me like you did. With my situation what it is, I really didn't need this to happen since I damn near depend on being able to get online for anything and I absolutely refuse to use windows unless it's a dire emergency, which I considered this to have been. You guys are good people and I can't thank you enough for the help.
Did you want me to still test the windows box as you were suggesting, or just leave things be? I'm not too concerned with it connecting, as it didn't seem to have any problems doing so (it's just so old and slow that it's a PITA waiting for it to do anything, heh).
Let me know if you need me to try out anything if you still have any curiosities as to how this may have happened or what it was that caused the problem in the first place.
hopefully it will hold, yes double check by power cycling the whole thingy, it is a good idea.
have a good move then, always a pain transporting stuff around.
Hi FTIO, I am delighted to hear the router and Linux computer are again connected to the Internet. :-) Based on your description, I suspect the cloned MAC address was the problem.
If you do not mind, please look for the labels on your router and modem to see whether their MAC addresses are listed. Then, please tell me what you find.
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