[SOLVED] Some thoughts on Pale Moon vs Firefox

PROBLEMCHYLD · 01-18-2018, 08:47 AM

27.7.1 (2018-01-18)
This is a minor emergency update to address website breakage and a theme issue.

Changes/fixes:

Added support for Array.prototype[@@unscopables].
Unfortunately, the addition of Javascript's ES6 Unscopables in 27.7.0 was incomplete, which caused a number of websites (e.g. Chase on-line banking, some Russian government sites) to display blank or not complete loading after updating to that version of the browser. This update should fix the problem by adding the missing part of the feature.
Fixed an issue with the default theme causing tab borders to be drawn too thick at higher settings for visual element scaling (125%/150%) in Windows.

bamunds · 01-18-2018, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeebizz

Pale Moon 27.6.1 has pretty much solved my main issue with the chat buffer on youtube. I have completely removed Mozilla Firefox , along with SeaMonkey. Now I am just trying to get rid of Thunderbird; but getting Claws to import my Thunderbird mail is a pain.

If you still need help with the migration, please open a separate thread. I've used Claws-mail for years and migrated from Thunderbird without loss and trouble. I've even moved my wife from Outlook to Claws-mail without loss or trouble (data or personal). Cheers!

kjhambrick · 01-18-2018, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PROBLEMCHYLD

27.7.1 (2018-01-18)
This is a minor emergency update to address website breakage and a theme issue.

Changes/fixes:

Added support for Array.prototype[@@unscopables].
Unfortunately, the addition of Javascript's ES6 Unscopables in 27.7.0 was incomplete, which caused a number of websites (e.g. Chase on-line banking, some Russian government sites) to display blank or not complete loading after updating to that version of the browser. This update should fix the problem by adding the missing part of the feature.
Fixed an issue with the default theme causing tab borders to be drawn too thick at higher settings for visual element scaling (125%/150%) in Windows.

Thanks for the head's up, PROBLEMCHYLD !

Alien Bob's PaleMoon Package worked best for me after testing the two SBo builds ( PaleMoon from source and palemoon repackaged ).

I was able to download Alien Bob's palemoon build/ tree ; substitute the Pale-Moon-27.7.1_Release.tar.gz Source, bump the version in the palemoon.SlackBuild file and here I am running palemoon 27.7.1.

Woo Hoo ! I do love Slackware for the flexbility !

Thanks again PROBLEMCHYLD and I can't thank Eric ( Alien Bob ) enough for all that he does for us !

-- kjh

Code:

# ls -la /var/log/packages/palemoon*

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 62912 Jan 18 15:50 /var/log/packages/palemoon-27.7.1-x86_64-1alien-kjh

Alien Bob · 01-18-2018, 04:14 PM

A palemoon-27.7.1 package is already in my repository ;-)

cwizardone · 01-18-2018, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Alien Bob

A palemoon-27.7.1 package is already in my repository ;-)

Thank you very much!

Skaendo · 01-18-2018, 04:43 PM

Unfortunately at the time of this writing, the Pale Moon team has no yet packaged 27.7.1 for Linux. (http://linux.palemoon.org/download/mainline/) So there will be a wait for the palemoon (repackage) SlackBuild script. It is not even available by modifying the download URL. Hopefully they will update it SOON.

bamunds · 01-18-2018, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Skaendo

Unfortunately at the time of this writing, the Pale Moon team has no yet packaged 27.7.1 for Linux. (http://linux.palemoon.org/download/mainline/) So there will be a wait for the palemoon (repackage) SlackBuild script. It is not even available by modifying the download URL. Hopefully they will update it SOON.

Hmm, just visited the PaleMoon download link and the Linux tar ball for 27.7.1 is now available.

Cheers

Skaendo · 01-18-2018, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bamunds

Hmm, just visited the PaleMoon download link and the Linux tar ball for 27.7.1 is now available.

Cheers

LOL, That was fast. Thanks for the heads up.

1337_powerslacker · 01-18-2018, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Skaendo

LOL, That was fast. Thanks for the heads up.

Alien BOB has it packaged already: http://bear.alienbase.nl/mirrors/peo...pkg64/current/

khronosschoty · 01-19-2018, 12:08 AM

Can also find my packages http://repo.khronosschoty.org/Slackware/Pale-Moon/

Skaendo · 01-19-2018, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 1337_powerslacker

Alien BOB has it packaged already: http://bear.alienbase.nl/mirrors/peo...pkg64/current/

Yea, but I maintain the palemoon (repackage) SlackBuild on SBo.

kjhambrick · 01-19-2018, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Alien Bob

A palemoon-27.7.1 package is already in my repository ;-)

Dooh !!!

I should have checked your ChangeLog one-more-time before I built the build.

Oh well ... it was a good exercise for me and for my CPUs

Thanks again, Alien Bob !

And now I am back with 'the program'

-- kjh

Code:

# ls -la /var/log/packages/palemoon*

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 63451 Jan 19 04:37 /var/log/packages/palemoon-27.7.1-x86_64-1alien

PROBLEMCHYLD · 02-01-2018, 04:36 PM

Code:

27.7.2 (2018-02-01)
This is a security and stability update.

Changes/fixes:

    Changed the X-Content-Type-Options: nosniff behavior to only check "success" class server responses, for web compatibility reasons.
    Changed the performance timer resolution once more to a granularity of 1 ms, after evaluating more potential ways of abusing Spectre.
    This takes the most cautious approach possible lacking more information (because apparently NDAs have been signed over this between mainstream players), follows Safari's lead, and should make it not just infeasible but downright impossible to use these timers for nefarious purposes in this context.
    Improved the debug-only startup cache wrapper to prevent a rare crash.
    Fixed a crash in the XML parser.
    Added a check for integer overflow in AesTask::DoCrypto() (CVE-2018-5122) DiD
    Fixed a potential race condition in the browser cache.
    Fixed a crash in HTML media elements (CVE-2018-5102)
    Fixed a crash in XHR using workers.
    Fixed a crash with some uncommon FTP operations.
    Fixed a potential race condition in the JAR library.

Skaendo · 02-01-2018, 05:34 PM

I have just uploaded a new SlackBuild for a Goanna & UXP based web browser called 'Basilisk' that is being developed by the Pale Moon team.

For those who don't know, Goanna is a fork of the Mozilla Gecko engine, and UXP (Unified XUL Platform) is a fork of the Mozilla code base without Servo or Rust (early 2107).

It is quite fast, IMO.

It is currently still considered in beta or "development" and should be considered to still have bugs, but it is quite stable and usable. I have noticed that the latest NoScript add-on for that version of the code base (5.1.8.4) does not work properly and has been disabled by the browser.

It is open source, and the source is available on GitHub under the codename 'moebius': https://github.com/MoonchildProducti...ebius/releases but if you want to compile from source beware, the source archive is ~300MB.

Their homepage is here: http://www.basilisk-browser.org/

The SlackBuild to repackage the 'official' tarball should be available this weekend (Feb 3-4) with the weekly update.

Currently they are not numbering their tarballs so you may notice that you have a newer version than what is listed in the SlackBuild.

And finally, the Linux tarballs are only x86_64.

enorbet · 02-02-2018, 12:36 AM

Hey Alien Bob, thanks for the palemoon and PaleMoon packages. I built it from source and applied your oxygen-gtk2 fix first but I experienced some segfaults and crashes so I'm thinking I need to change compiler as noted in the PaleMoon page. Is it advisable to install 4.9.4 temporarily or in parallel so it won't become my new system-wide compiler?

Ooops! NVM, just saw the rest of the help page. Thx again.