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Remember that thread where everyone loved the idea of keeping Slack on one CD, but everyone disagreed on what should stay and what should go?
Well, now it looks like we have two CDs, and I think the developers would be hard pressed to move back to one CD after including more features.
What's your opinion on the matter? Like the change?
Personally, I think there were some things added a bit gratuitously, like epiphany. How many web browsers do we really need?
Yeah -- You're not required to install all of the applications. With slack, I usually do a minimal installation with kde and some necessary apps, and then build up from there.
2 cd's are good because you can customize any way you want. Now 3 cd's would be pushing it..but 2 is just fine.
Originally posted by stevenhasty I think 5 web browsers, however, is not in keeping with slackware's more minimalistic tradition.
But those 5 browsers don't really take up that much space either. You have to think other things are growing in size as they are getting more rich with options, additions, etc. Take KDE or Gnome for example. If you take Gnome 1.4 and compare it to 2.0 or the latest version, I'm sure there is probably megs of differences in sizes, etc.
So 5 browsers or 10 different text editors are really not what is taking up so much space the majority of the time, its all the packages combined and the newer ones that are growing and being developed into richer applications, etc.
i dont like slack on 2 cds even if it brings more options thats why i keep my slack 9.0 as long as everything keeps running fine if i ever really need newer programs it no problem to use slack-current update or to update special files ...
I don't mean for this post to be offensive to anyone but I'm just really suprised at how such all the small issues that shouldn't even be an issue or even cared about, most care about the most it seems.
Who cares if its 5 cd's or 10 cd's for Slackware... what's the big deal about an extra cd instead of just having one cd?? I really don't get it? I'd think most complain or bring up the fact that 9.0 didn't have the kernel source files; or that a particular package isn't installed; or Slackware doesn't come with "such and such" support..
Come on guys, is it really necessary to complain about the smallest no biggie issue/things in life? If you care or sweat about the small stuff, your going to have a heart attack one day due to the stress level something like this is going to cause you...
My philosophy, who cares? I'd rather focus on other issues that a particular distro is having, lack of support, etc than it ending up having an extra install cd you have to download or burn. Most even get it for free as well...
Don't get me wrong, I like having a few more features, but they come at a price to some people. I like things clean and simple--such as setting up slackware to install all its packages (minus a few categories) so I can just go off and let it do its thing, while not worrying about installing a lot of junk I don't need. That's one of the main reasons I use slackware, and not another distribution. If you're really after features, why not go with red hat?
Because Red Hat serves a commercial niche. Slackware doesn't. It supposed to allow you to have full customizability and control over you linux system whereas Red Hat is concerned with making linux a bit easier.
Have you considered Vector? The fun of Slack with the simplicity you seem to want. 4.0 is out already. And in rc2 is any indication, then I think you'll like it.
I might try it if I get a box to put it on. Don't get me wrong, I like Slack--it's just robust enough for me. I and others just get apprehensive when things get added--seemingly carelessly sometimes--when slackware has always been committed to minimizing bloat. I really dig the fact that 9.0 fit all on one cd (even though kernel source was left out, which I think was a main reason to make it two cds for 9.1). Maybe I should just make my own slack cd, without emacs or kde ;-)
Have u ppl tried to install directly from a premounted iso (with out to burn it to a CD first) ? It worked just fine, even faster than installing from from CDROM-CD. In respect to this aspect I'd say it is even better to have only one install iso (something 1gb), so that installation can be done in one hook ..
As for wut is push into the packages, I think to satisfy the needs of all ppl it won't be easy, therefore I think it is already ok, to have some extra thingy inside the iso where few ppl may consider useless .. (be thankfull to have ppl to do that jobs of puting them all together for us ..
Wut I've remarked is, that the setup script might have to be upgraded for that issue that by installing from a premounted iso, it don't allow ppl to choose which kernel to be installed as /boot/vmlinux, the only possible option is to choose that vmlinux from the boot-disk (diskett).
This is the warning displayed when setup is forced to install vmlinux from CDROM (by premounted iso case):
Code:
Sorry the dir /cdrom/kernels & /cdrom/isolinux/kernel were not found.
If not installing from CDROM, you'll have to install your kernel from a floopy, bootdisk or A series.
Well I've just found an tricky answer from the warning, next time I'll try to choose a kernel from the premounted iso n write it to diskett first b4 run setup, then feed it to setup to see wether it install it..
Last edited by linuxJaver; 10-10-2003 at 02:01 AM.
To tell you the truth, I was quite impressed by Slack 9.1 and the fact its on two CD's...
It appeared to me, that the first disc was the essentials disc, everything to get Slack up and running, then if you wanted all the extra GUI's and other extra's you chuck in the second disc... Makes sense if you ask me
I would like to have a 1 CD for 9.1. What about having a 1 CD version with just KDE, and another 1 CD version with just Gnome? I guess you'd still have to make a bit of room, but I think there's lots of things that can be dropped from Slackware 9.1 (besides the cornicopia of web browsers). I don't really use the edutainment stuff, most of the games, the toys, etc. I don't use all of the many different editors, picture viewers. Maybe these things can be put on an optional second CD?
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