I'm using 14.2 version.

This one has an old Firefox and Konqueror ready to go. If I start the Firefox again, it will lock up. Been through that about 5 times now. Konqueror is a bit coarse for me. I know my "moves" to tweak FF to suit me. Just as I've learned quite well the first two tweaks I must apply every time I start the live USB.

It was not a problem on #1 machine last night, but is on machine #2 now and I cannot get past that point. (yes i've searched too many times and finding no satisfaction)

I got the live version so I can Learn how to make this stuff work. And I shall.

But I get distracted and frustrated rather quickly (when not over-focused), so--

My first question for the folks:

What do you think is the most efficient way for Me to learn?

background: Monkeyed with PC's since the beginning but not a programmer, just a user who has been "under the hood" a little, but no formal training or lifetime of command line experience. I thought all that was over when DOS gave way to Win. I was wrong for sure. Converted to Linux only a few years ago, just hit the distro-hopping stage. Ready to do more with less.

A very quick study, I don't need a lot of repetition. I found a well-spoken and easy to watch guy on Youtube recently, but he repeats and repeats and repeats every little thing like we have no access to a rewind/replay function. Runs me nuts.

But I can learn from anyone, anywhere, any media. Just don't have bucks to burn. And I'm tired of hopping distros. If I can make my installation of Slackware look like the Live Version I'm using now with the KDE DE, BUT also have a non-crashing browser, THEN I'M ALL about some SLACKWARE!

That's my other question.

How hard is it going to be to make my install look like the Live version? Is there a "quickie" learning curve for that?

Should I forgo the live version and just INSTALL Slackware? what about LFS? (wait, that was a hop, nevermind)

I thought I'd snapshot all the text as it the live boot installs for some points of reference... (box, what box? I think non-linear)

thank you

WP

To be clear, I don't need to "fix and forget", I'm ready to learn what the heck is going on. And hope the internet is big enough for me to get that sorted out. Cheers-I'll be back in 24 or less.

Hello,

Just installing Slackware version 14.2 will make things easier, and allow you to get the updates once for good.

However, please provide a link to the ISO of the live version you are are using.

I agree with Didier, just install Slackware from the regular ISO and update. Install additional packages from SBo and/or Alien's repos. I think it would be a lot easier for you that way.

The only tricky part (that is not really tricky) is setting up your partitions. I would suggest *at least* 3 partitions, swap, / and /data.

There is nothing wrong with Alien's Live ISO's, but I personally think that live ISO's are more of a novelty and should be used for "checking out" any given distro. Once you find something you like you commit.

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In what way do you think Slackware Live Edition (once you are running and you are logged-on) looks any different from a regular Slackware install?

Wade, the beauty of Slackware is that it provides a plain/vanilla/unpatched setup of whatever desktop environment you choose (KDE in your case), so it will look like what you have used on the live disk. But yes, you should install it. Read the documentation. Partitioning your disk will probably be the hardest part for you, as has been said. You could probably use gparted on one of your MANY other distro disks for that, first, and then install Slackware.

Eric, he's new to Linux, and has been distro-hopping, and of course has landed on the best , so he hasn't yet learned the Slackware way.

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Read all of the available documentation and install 14.2 on your HD. You will experience a lot of satisfaction when you successfully partition your hard drive and install Slackware.

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I don't know. I've never seen one.

But I wouldn't expect it to have all the GUI software ready to go-out of the box. Maybe it does-it's a big ISO.

I was going to find out today (install Slackware), but have spent most all of my computing time this morning trying to get rid of the old kernels that have packed my /boot to the rim* and dysfunctionality.


*How dumb is that setup? (Mint) where the automatic upgrades must fail when the /boot fills up, because there is no automatic purge?

I do see _now_ how to set up automatic purges and take care of it. BUT AM STUCK because apparently I cannot get the name of the packages into a form that the OS understands.

I'm listing 'em and copying names into the commands and getting nothing but "unable to locate package..." and "couldn't find package..." results.

From all my research this morning each individual person who has ever touched a keyboard has his own personally slightly different way of addressing this common issue. I never saw this in my previous years of Linuxing because I simply kept running the original kernel. More recent installs I started doing all updates (since about 8 kernels back by the listing). I thought I was being "smart" by updating to the latest kernels. Now I'm miffed because the structure is designed to cause a failure.

So I cannot download any easy maintenance solutions. There's no room left. I tried.

I have to do this manually and I've got to go find some "linear" reading instead of the shotgun approach of 100 solutions that I find on the wild wild web.

But first I have to figure out why the machine cannot see what it is showing me.

What we have here is a failure to communicate.

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more coffee I say! And I'll work on Slackware tomorrow. Thanks for your supportive replies.

Also, regarding partitioning- I do have Gparted Live and have partitioned before--but I wasn't satisfied with the results because, get this, different partition tools can be confusing because different terms and options and they just didn't work like I thought it should have (had been led to believe they would). But that's a whole 'nother monkey to throw peanuts at. java me.

Slackware gets tomorrow. no time today.

LFS? try the live version here http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/
Oops just kidding , But seriously read the first sentence in my signature.

I'm doing. I'm trying to learn to DO. That's the dealio, tired of being the "patch/fix/mud applying user" who knows not why/what/where such was necessary or not and worked or didn't. When that happens, when I start getting a grip on the subject, I'll be glad to help others.

But really, why do I even care at this point?, I can simply let Mint die of natural causes and install another distro. When I install I'll have some space to use automated features. When I have free space in /boot I can use automated package cleaner uppers.

That's why I'm looking at Slackware and SO DAMN disappointed I couldn't get started with that today. And totally frustrated that I wasn't able to make an "intelligent solution" by learning something more about Linux. Rather than doing the "avoidance dance" as I could by reinstalling or installing another distro.

All I've been able to learn in my hours invested this morning are HOW I got here to the point of /boot FULL of old packages.

And how to avoid that in the future. And a lot of ways that DO NOT work to remove those packages. I simply cannot stay on this all day long. Not this day. I'll be back and fresher in the morning and try to find some more constructive reading tonight. But I have to generate some income or starve. TTFN

You'll be surprised really hard if you expect Slackware to give you "automated tools" ...

Pretty sure this is where I sourced the iso and checksum. http://bear.alienbase.nl/mirrors/sla...e64-14.2-live/

It's not yet clear to me if I can install Slackware from the live USB version I have. Of course there's no "easy button" but do I need a new ISO?

Yes I've spent the requisite 35 minutes looking for this to be answered clearly somewhere, but haven't found it, at least not in words I understand yet.

This is Slackware64-14.2 Live 1.1.9.4 (which crashes every time I run the included Firefox on it.)

and there's no prompt or option for installation at the first menu, then I'm in KDE?

Also where is this "persistence" option I've read about, where settings are kept on the USB, such that I don't have to keep adjusting the same parameters every time I boot Live? It would be super keen if I didn't have to adjust fonts and toolbars every boot (esp when wadding it up so often).



thanks, no rush I'm about done for this lap around the sun.

See I'm not making stuff up:

...Slackware Live Edition does not have to be installed to a computer hard drive (however you do have that choice if you want to: using the setup2hd script). from: https://docs.slackware.com/slackware:liveslak

Yeah, so that's where I read it.

But I'm not finding anyone talking about that, and don't know what setup2hd script is or where to get it. I did see someone telling another that he could not just use a file (setup2hd), that the script has more to it than that. I understand that--it's a script. So here I go again.



Fastest thing for me to do is download a non live version? likely. Will I do it that way? Why of course not. It's time to learn all this stuff I've been working around and never knowing what was 'zactly going on.

Also, I do have a DVD burned with Live on it, would that be easier than the USB for installing?

This thread leans me to think such or that I should simply download a non-live slack whilst I slumber: https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...hd-4175595531/

that's what I found when i looked for setup2hd.

There is an install option from Alien's live DVD's somewhere. I don't remember where though. You might be able to find it on his blog: https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/tag/liveslak/