[SOLVED] Slackware 15?

Mig21 · 02-29-2020, 10:42 AM

Hi

Sorry, I know this is traditionally not a cool question to ask about Slackware, but I havn't been reading software news for years so I thought maybe someone can share some rumours.

Does anyone have any idea when the next Slackware version is coming? Or is it never?

hazel · 02-29-2020, 10:46 AM

Not another one! If you scan this forum, you'll see that this is a topic that's been flogged to death.

The answer is "Soon".

ponce · 02-29-2020, 11:04 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slackware#Releases

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Slackware's release policy follows a feature and stability based release cycle, in contrast to the time-bound (e.g., Ubuntu) or rolling release (e.g., Gentoo Linux) schemes of other Linux distributions. This means there is no set time on when to expect a release. Volkerding will release the next version after he feels a suitable number of changes from the previous version have been made and those changes lead to a stable environment. As stated by Patrick Volkerding, "It's usually our policy not to speculate on release dates, since that's what it is — pure speculation. It's not always possible to know how long it will take to make the upgrades needed and tie up all the related loose ends. As things are built for the upcoming release, they'll be uploaded into the -current tree."

vtel57 · 02-29-2020, 11:05 AM

Just a sampling of recent Slack 15 posts...

https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...-a-4175620463/

https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...-a-4175640732/

https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...rk-4175667497/

hitest · 02-29-2020, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mig21

Does anyone have any idea when the next Slackware version is coming? Or is it never?

We're definitely closer to 15. I suggest that you track development in the slackware-current changelog; development is progressing at a furious pace.
We've achieved some recent milestones, that is, we now have a 5.4x kernel, Qt5 is here, and Pam is in /testing. KDE5 and XFCE 4.14 are anticipated to arrive in the next while.

http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackwar.../ChangeLog.txt

slackb0t · 02-29-2020, 12:03 PM

My best guess would be sometime this year... I don't think anyone on this forum could narrow it down much closer. And that estimate is not remotely guaranteed

ttk · 02-29-2020, 01:06 PM

Slackware 15 will definitely come, but I don't think it will be as soon as people would like. There are large movements within -current still emerging -- pam, krb5 and kde5, possibly others, with long burn-in/testing durations likely. It also wouldn't surprise me if PV were treading water on the 5.4 kernel, waiting for a "real" LTS option to emerge (since upstream has decided LTS kernels will only be supported for two years, which is far too short for Slackware release lifespans).

This is all conjecture; nobody really knows except PV. All that is certain is that he will release Slackware 15, and he will do it when it is up to Slackware's usual standard of excellence.

Skaendo · 02-29-2020, 01:18 PM

When it's ready.

BW-userx · 02-29-2020, 03:27 PM

when he believes it is ready. I think it is over due, but this is purely arbitrary.
so just run current.

fido_dogstoyevsky · 02-29-2020, 03:59 PM

Are you talking about the stable version (as in bullet and bomb proof) or what is effectively the Slackware equivalent of a rolling release (Current)?

New stable (whatever number it's given) will be available when it's ready. I'm looking forward to it, but I'd prefer it not rushed. Slackware 14.2 has been around for a while, but it isn't a problem for users who need stability the most. It's just four years old - not an inordinate time for a stable release.

Current is available right now.

bassmadrigal · 02-29-2020, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by fido_dogstoyevsky

or what is effectively the Slackware equivalent of a rolling release (Current)?

-current is not a rolling release. It is a development version. There is a difference as rolling releases never reach an actual release version. -current will become 15.0, it's just a matter of when (which nobody knows... although, I imagine Pat has some non-public checklist of software he wants to ensure is added and stabilized before he releases 15.0 -- many speculate it the last major roadblocks are PAM, Plasma5, and xfce 4.14 and then we just need to wait for everything to stabilize).

fido_dogstoyevsky · 02-29-2020, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bassmadrigal

-current is not a rolling release. It is a development version. There is a difference as rolling releases never reach an actual release version. -current will become 15.0...

True, which is why I called it "the Slackware equivalent". But when -current becomes 15, won't it also continue as the new -current?

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Originally Posted by bassmadrigal

...I imagine Pat has some non-public checklist of software he wants to ensure is added and stabilized before he releases 15.0 ...we just need to wait for everything to stabilize).

And I'm quite happy to wait. If I wasn't I'd be on -current.

upnort · 02-29-2020, 05:24 PM

Ah! I feel better!

Mig21 · 02-29-2020, 07:02 PM

Thanks everyone! I'm a committed Slackware user. Whatever Pat does is way better than anything I could possibly suggest. But it's lonely to be disconnected from things, and it's good to hear from people who were paying attention that everything is still "normal" with Slackware

tramtrist · 02-29-2020, 07:11 PM

Awesome.. Mark it solved.