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Old 04-14-2021, 09:28 PM   #106
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Regarding the store example.. If you don't like the product, you can complain. If that doesn't work and the boss just won't listen, then go somewhere else, buy what you think is good for you, don't stand at the door endlessly, throwing the hate around.
Good example. If I don't like a store I don't go back, I vote with my wallet. If I don't like an operating system I use something else. I don't haunt the forum of that OS and stir up trouble.
Beta 1 is looking good. We're closer.
 
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Old 04-15-2021, 01:15 AM   #107
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He doesn't give a 'any interest' to that. He even didn't change setup program to accomodate modern laptops (I could be wrong, but most likely mini iso won't work with wireless interface only laptops).
That's where you can use a liveslak ISO instead and install Slackware over its wireless connection using 'setup2hd'.
 
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Old 04-15-2021, 03:08 AM   #108
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Dear AlienBob, if to look at the history of your posts, you are in the top 10 biggest insulting users of this forum.

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As a long time near 10 year reader, but resisting posting until few weeks ago, I concur.

Alienbob, eric, has often attacked people over the years, sarcastic, spiteful, he has no humility, I recall he attacked someone for not putting XY in their post only Z, problem is it had XY with Z, eric went off on his usual tantrum he never posted in that thread again, probably realising he screwed up, yet could not be bothered apologising, this is a long time trait of his.

He comes on here like some kind of god, which he is not, other people, likely me now will get Jermeys wrath, but eric can spew all he likes and gets away with it, I guess he is protected as someone once called him, he needs to be pulled into line like everyone else. and maybe stop using forums when he is drunk, yes eric, we know.

ialxend is right in his statement, and so many of us know it. pull your head in eric snd look at yourself before you throw rocks at other people.

it reall gets my goat when people like this are looked up to by the blind mice and never call him for what he is, insecure and arogant.

it is people like this that cause people like me to not come or post here, for a newbie doesnt like being slain with verbal machine gun when peoplecant read the full post before bashing on keyboard in response to them.

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Old 04-15-2021, 03:22 AM   #109
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Old 04-15-2021, 03:30 AM   #110
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I think this discussion drifted away. Let`s stop and focus on Slackware 15.
 
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Old 04-15-2021, 03:39 AM   #111
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As a Swedish author (Hjalmar Söderberg, 1869-1941) once wrote (my shaky translation):

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One wants to be loved, for want of it admired, for want of it feared, for want of it detested and despised. One strives to invoke some kind of feeling in others. The soul shudders when facing a void and seeks contact at any price.
Tragic and true IMHO. Examples are legion.

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Old 04-15-2021, 03:43 AM   #112
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In defence of AlienBob: Yes, Eric can be a bit tetchy at times - as can we all. But I, and many others no doubt, welcome his input. He is a major contributor to Slackware and made Plasma5 available to us long before it was incorporated into the main tree.

For that alone, I am extremely grateful, never mind all the other projects he makes available.

If the price for that is the occasional slap across the wrist (and yes, I've had one or two from him!), then its a price I am very happy to pay!

So far no issues with 15-beta. Roll on the final release!

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Old 04-15-2021, 03:46 AM   #113
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If you read the rest of the page, you'll see its highly unlikely, that they would design SAMBA to auto compile against Kerberos.
Slightly OT: Samba must compile against Kerberos, otherwise the server would only work in standalone mode. The question is, which Kerberos.

Samba has always shipped with embedded Heimdal, which is obviously bad practice and did indeed lead to it bundling an increasingly outdated library, as the source wasn't being synced against upstream.

Quite recently they started supporting MIT Kerberos, but due to bugs and missing features in that Kerberos implementation, the AD DC part is only partially working. In fact, it's completely disabled by default.

When configuring the build, one may specify either "System Heimdal" or "System MIT Kerberos", meaning Samba won't embed Heimdal but instead compile against the system libraries. One would then assume that without either parameter, the build would default to embedded Heimdal like before. Unfortunately, that seems not to be the case.

This may indeed be a bug in the Samba build scripts, but package maintainers can probably work around it by simply uninstalling Kerberos before building the package.
 
Old 04-15-2021, 04:31 AM   #114
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I got idea to look into Changelog - as it is cumulative. Search for kerberos yields this
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n/samba-4.6.6-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
This update fixes an authentication validation bypass security issue:
"Orpheus' Lyre mutual authentication validation bypass"
All versions of Samba from 4.0.0 onwards using embedded Heimdal
Kerberos are vulnerable to a man-in-the-middle attack impersonating
a trusted server, who may gain elevated access to the domain by
returning malicious replication or authorization data.
Samba binaries built against MIT Kerberos are not vulnerable.
For more information, see:
https://www.samba.org/samba/security...017-11103.html
https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvenam...CVE-2017-11103
(* Security fix *)
I think maybe there is more explanations in Changelog than that about samba build.
 
Old 04-15-2021, 05:29 AM   #115
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I expect nothing less fron erics fan club, i trust you reported his narkiness in a post to iax??? no? of course not you prove my point
 
Old 04-15-2021, 05:30 AM   #116
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In defence of AlienBob: Yes, Eric can be a bit tetchy at times - as can we all. But I, and many others no doubt, welcome his input. He is a major contributor to Slackware and made Plasma5 available to us long before it was incorporated into the main tree.

For that alone, I am extremely grateful, never mind all the other projects he makes available.

If the price for that is the occasional slap across the wrist (and yes, I've had one or two from him!), then its a price I am very happy to pay!

So far no issues with 15-beta. Roll on the final release!

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but that should not give him free reign to speak to people the way he does, if I want to listen to ranting nutters I'll go listen to richard stallman
 
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Old 04-15-2021, 05:35 AM   #117
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As a long time near 10 year reader, but resisting posting until few weeks ago, I concur.

Alienbob, eric, has often attacked people over the years, sarcastic, spiteful, he has no humility, I recall he attacked someone for not putting XY in their post only Z, problem is it had XY with Z, eric went off on his usual tantrum he never posted in that thread again, probably realising he screwed up, yet could not be bothered apologising, this is a long time trait of his.

He comes on here like some kind of god, which he is not, other people, likely me now will get Jermeys wrath, but eric can spew all he likes and gets away with it, I guess he is protected as someone once called him, he needs to be pulled into line like everyone else. and maybe stop using forums when he is drunk, yes eric, we know.

ialxend is right in his statement, and so many of us know it. pull your head in eric snd look at yourself before you throw rocks at other people.

it reall gets my goat when people like this are looked up to by the blind mice and never call him for what he is, insecure and arogant.

it is people like this that cause people like me to not come or post here, for a newbie doesnt like being slain with verbal machine gun when peoplecant read the full post before bashing on keyboard in response to them.

You are referring to your posts in your own first thread here in the forum where you managed to piss of and insult mutiple forum members who were merely trying to help; and my reponse to that. I did that not because I was drunk at the time (I am never drunk), or insecure. Perhaps arrogant? I can take criticism if it is to the point and based on facts. In your case I was not being arrogant but instead explaining how this forum's strength is built on people helping other people for free.

If you look at my posts that seem to you like arrogant and throwing rocks at people: these posts I write when I believe that you are not doing the distro or the community a favor. I have been contacted by forum admins just like other people who make strong statements, as is their right. I am not "above the law" if you think that.

Newbies and experienced Slackware users alike - if they come here with a problem and I can provide context or an answer, I do that. Have been doing that for a long time, too. Think of it like this: it's people's signal-to-noise ratio which determines how you are seen and treated.

Back on topic for the 15.0 Beta1: I am running it on a server in a datacenter, on my laptop (Intel GPU), my two desktops (Nvidia binary blobs) and mostly using KDE Plasma5. Desktops and laptop combined, my usage is 12+ hours every day. I have no crashes, everything works, from my DAW software packages to Steam games. I am happy, but also curious to learn about issues other people have.
 
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Old 04-15-2021, 05:44 AM   #118
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If you look up Yeoman in the dictionary, Eric Hameleers's picture should be there, along with a huge host of others who "selfishly serve the rest of us" . If he has a low tolerance of fools, I'd say he has largely earned it. But actually he is patient and kind and we could all do worse than to emulate this Dutchman.
 
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Old 04-15-2021, 07:25 AM   #119
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If you look up Yeoman in the dictionary, Eric Hameleers's picture should be there, along with a huge host of others who "selfishly serve the rest of us" . If he has a low tolerance of fools, I'd say he has largely earned it. But actually he is patient and kind and we could all do worse than to emulate this Dutchman.
Back in my day, we had to go to usenet and brave those flamefests for linux help. Uphill both ways! In the snow! Barefoot! And we LIKED it!
 
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Old 04-15-2021, 07:27 AM   #120
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After you checked out rute and tldp of course.
 
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