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Old 09-23-2017, 01:14 PM   #16
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I do not have a link to this news item
http://www.walb.com/story/33270578/t...ing-child-porn

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhotoDNA
 
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Old 09-23-2017, 01:30 PM   #17
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"Skype essentially initiated the entire investigation, which really got the ball rolling,” Vergison said.

Vergison said websites such as Skype, Facebook and Google are using technology to find illegal images and report them to law enforcement.
It is spelled out, loud and clear. Skype initiated investigation. There was no court order nor was this person under some sort of watch.
 
Old 09-23-2017, 01:44 PM   #18
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No. You are just spreading it thickly. Sorry to be blunt but you've been around long enough to know better.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...tion-user-data

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...skype-traffic/
These articles only state that the NSA can capture Skype traffic, they do not state (nor do they offer proof) that all Skype traffic is actually captured.
Yes, Microsoft had to hand over its encryption keys to the US government as mandated by the Prism warrant request. The same happened with Google, Apple and other companies. Lavabit for instance, was forced to shutdown its service after it refused to hand over its encryption keys to the government.

This is just a call to join an online protest.
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And of course, M$ itself has centralized Skype networking so that all calls go through their servers, thus there is 100% opportunity to monitor and intercept when they want. In other cases, M$ has shown an eagerness to root through mail on their servers for their own purposes, so by extension they would do the same for calls.
Skype had already switched away from pure P2P traffic to dedicated supernodes before Microsoft bought the company. What Microsoft did was replacing non-centralized supernodes with hardened Linux servers (sic) onder Microsoft control. I don't regard that as evil, Microsoft needed to replace their Lync for business with Skype technology which performs better. And your "by extension" claim is just bullshit.

Yes they are Microsoft's servers. And yes, Skype is not end-to-end encrypted. So decryption and evesdropping is possible. That is something entirely different from calling this spying on purpose.
Skype has always been a closed-source communication platform, so you should already have been distrusting this before it was acquired by Microsoft.
 
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Old 09-23-2017, 02:26 PM   #19
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Skype has always been a closed-source communication platform, so you should already have been distrusting this before it was acquired by Microsoft.
Yep. It's not just closed source but even worse it is a proprietary protocol. So it was foolish to use it since it was first announced, and I said so elsewhere quite a bit at the time whenever it was brought up.

It's just that it's much worse now that on top of all that it is now owned by M$ and become yet another vehicle for its ongoing attack against FOSS or even anything non-M$. What is different now is the large amount of money they are putting into reputation laundering lately along with a little more effort into running attacks via proxies.

My experience with it was that I took a risk for a time and was able to use it to bring some people over to SIP. The sad situation is that many end up starting with VoIP on Skype because of the marketing and it is always a bit harder to displace an incumbent product. Fortunately, there are enough advantages to SIP that the changeover pays off quickly. Like I recommended above, it is an important advantage that SIP (e.g. Blink or Jitsi) can be installed along side Skype so that people can switch back and forth until comfortable enough to upgrade fully to SIP and leave Skype in the dust.
 
Old 09-23-2017, 07:01 PM   #20
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Did you see what the 8.7.x was all about? I'm guessing it's the windows branch (I think they're around the 8 mark) but for linux. I used the 5.5.x because at least I know what I'm in for.
The 8 series uses GTK+. Presumably the 5 series still uses Qt (dunno as I downloaded 8.7.76.59440 rather than 5.5.0.1) - does yours in fact use Qt?
 
Old 09-23-2017, 10:41 PM   #21
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Nah - the Qt version died with 4.3 or whatever it was.

I've done a bit of digging (it's a pretty boring Sunday atm) and it seems the 8's have had a makeover, and will ultimately be what they want everyone to be on:

https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/o...x-8-5-preview/

Which links to:

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/08/s...vailable-linux

From the article.
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 "Now, having brought the Skype redesign to Windows and Mac in the form of desktop previews, it’s Linux’s turn to don the colourful garb and trot out the trendy buzzwords."
 
Old 09-24-2017, 12:43 AM   #22
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I am using the RPM version from the site and rpm2txz. No issues thus far.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 10:32 AM   #23
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Since Jitsi has already been mentioned, Wire is another possibility. It's very similar to Skype in practical terms, although you also get Signal's encryption and an open source client (I believe the server remains proprietary). It's in SBo, and available on most platforms.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 11:51 AM   #24
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it's quite simple, really. All i have to do is convince all my contacts to migrate to jitsi or wire, and here it is!
 
Old 09-25-2017, 08:32 PM   #25
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it's quite simple, really. All i have to do is convince all my contacts to migrate to jitsi or wire, and here it is!
Jitsi is probably a tough ask with non-technical people, but Wire is already becoming quite popular actually. I don't find it all that difficult asking people to try something new, but yes, there is inertia to deal with.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 08:59 PM   #26
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it's quite simple, really. All i have to do is convince all my contacts to migrate to jitsi or wire, and here it is!
And then they all have to convince their contacts to migrate, and then those contacts have to convince all of their contacts, ... . Asking people to use a different application for some of their contacts isn't realistic. One insurmountable problem is that a group call isn't possible unless all parties are using the same application.
 
Old 09-26-2017, 10:16 AM   #27
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Asking people to use a different application for some of their contacts isn't realistic.
I must be unrealistic, since I do that all the time "You can catch me on program x/y/z" has never really been a big deal for me. In fact when someone recently wanted to call on Skype, I told them that I don't use that, and they suggested Wire to me (I'd not heard of it before that). I'm not personally interested in supporting systems that don't care about Linux, but anyone is obviously free to carry on with Skype, although it looks like that means either using the web version, or installing Windows in a VM.
 
Old 09-27-2017, 11:42 AM   #28
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Hi,
With respect to the OP, I had the same message .. went to the Skype site, downloaded the latest Linux 64bit rpm, installed it on Slackware 14.2 (had to remove the previous version first) and away we went ... no fuss, no bother.

Whether or not I was wise to do this is another matter!

As always YMMV

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