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Old 11-06-2023, 03:14 PM   #3151
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You're right. I cannot profess to know. My judgement is based solely upon the contents of the -current tree, which just keeps getting better.

Patrick makes sane and considered decisions, as we saw with PAM... when it was finally implemented, it was done in a way that most people didn't even notice.
Huh ??

Slackware has PAM ?!?!?
 
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Old 11-06-2023, 04:18 PM   #3152
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how many Slackers have Blue-ray burners in their machines ???
I do. And a spare internal drive in an old Win7 desktop machine.

And a recently-purchased external USB Blu-ray writer that I can use on my Win10 laptop or my linux desktop machines.
 
Old 11-06-2023, 04:33 PM   #3153
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I still have a bluray player, and I plan to upgrade to a 4k player. And yes I also have a bluray burner in my pc - too bad I still can't get bluray playback to work though, maybe in another 10 years it might be possible
 
Old 11-06-2023, 04:59 PM   #3154
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A more efficient installer - less redundant options

I still would like to request a clean-up of the installer, removal of the Menu option during install since you already have Expert - and also changing the output of Expert to a terse output.
 
Old 11-06-2023, 06:15 PM   #3155
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I still would like to request a clean-up of the installer, removal of the Menu option during install since you already have Expert - and also changing the output of Expert to a terse output.
To paraphrase the line from "Field of Dreams"...

If you write it, he _might_ come (to like it).
 
Old 11-06-2023, 06:30 PM   #3156
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To paraphrase the line from "Field of Dreams"...
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I still would like to request a clean-up of the installer, removal of the Menu option during install since you already have Expert - and also changing the output of Expert to a terse output.
If you write it, he _might_ come (to like it).
Fine, but I already poked around in the /source folder and I didn't really find exactly where the code in question is, even if I did I don't even have the skills to make such modifications.
 
Old 11-06-2023, 07:12 PM   #3157
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Fine, but I already poked around in the /source folder and I didn't really find exactly where the code in question is, even if I did I don't even have the skills to make such modifications.
this should be a good starting point:
https://git.slackware.nl/current/tre.../usr/lib/setup

Good luck ;-)

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Old 11-06-2023, 08:09 PM   #3158
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I still would like to request a clean-up of the installer, removal of the Menu option during install since you already have Expert - and also changing the output of Expert to a terse output.
And those of us who completely ignore everything and just memory smash buttons during the install will end up with a broken system and confused! ;-)
 
Old 11-06-2023, 10:21 PM   #3159
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I still would like to request a clean-up of the installer, removal of the Menu option during install since you already have Expert - and also changing the output of Expert to a terse output.
Agreed.

The installer does not work well on machines with more than a few disks. This particularly problematic on storage servers.

Surely it can use lsblk instead of doing all the work itself.
 
Old 11-07-2023, 07:41 AM   #3160
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Huh ??

Slackware has PAM ?!?!?
I think we have a very minimal PAM. I know many projects/packages still have a "--with-pam" or similar compile flag that has to be enabled to use PAM specifically to make it less of an octopus.

I kkow Slackware does have a lot of stuff that doesn't use PAM that could, but that's always been at PV's discretion to enable or disable PAM usage. Honestly, it's one of those necessary evil packages for good security practices, but TBH, it's also one of those "you forget about it more over time" packagees also.

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Old 11-07-2023, 08:30 AM   #3161
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I think we have a very minimal PAM. I know many projects/packages still have a "--with-pam" or similar compile flag that has to be enabled to use PAM specifically to make it less of an octopus.
Most (if not all) projects, that have pam dependency, have this:
Code:
if [ -L /lib${LIBDIRSUFFIX}/libpam.so.? ]; then
  USE_PAM="--enable-pam"   # or --wth-pam or --with-libpam
else
  unset USE_PAM
fi
This way, they can easily be recompiled with/without pam

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Old 11-07-2023, 08:53 AM   #3162
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And those of us who completely ignore everything and just memory smash buttons during the install will end up with a broken system and confused! ;-)
I'm just asking for the removal of "Menu" , since Expert is exactly the same thing, and having the output of Expert changed to a terse one just to make it go quicker after choosing the packages I want.



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this should be a good starting point:
https://git.slackware.nl/current/tre.../usr/lib/setup

Good luck ;-)
I'm guessing its this: https://git.slackware.nl/current/tre...ib/setup/setup

Code:
   if [ "$MODE" = "expert" ]; then
    dialog --infobox "'expert' prompt mode selected. Using interactive menus \
to choose packages individually." 4 60
So change it to:

Code:
   if [ "$MODE" = "expert" ]; then
    dialog --title "SELECT PROMPTING MODE" --default-item "terse" --menu
to choose packages individually." 4 60
But why do I have a feeling thats wrong? I don't think you wanna trust my 'guessing' on this...


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Agreed.

The installer does not work well on machines with more than a few disks. This particularly problematic on storage servers.

Surely it can use lsblk instead of doing all the work itself.
I never ran into this scenario so I couldn't tell you the solution.

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Old 11-07-2023, 09:14 AM   #3163
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sudo 1.9.15
 
Old 11-07-2023, 01:14 PM   #3164
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Yeah, but...but...but... how many Slackers have Blue-ray burners in their machines ???
Fortunately it is possible to buy USB connected bluray burners which you also can move to different machines to boot from. I prefer to install from a read only bluray media instead of a USB flash stick.

My own custom Slackware installation media no longer fits on a Dual Layer DVD as it contains some big third party packages like texlive-extra and texlive-docs.

regards Henrik
 
Old 11-07-2023, 03:20 PM   #3165
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Thunderbird 115.4.2

Release notes:
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/th.../releasenotes/

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