[SOLVED] Official Changelog And Feedback

lopid · 05-24-2012, 04:49 PM

The current changelog asks for "Confirmations on any of these appreciated.", but gives no indication of how to make contact with someone about such confirmations. I brought this issue up a while ago, on this board, and the reply was just to post on this board with the feedback, which frankly isn't good enough. Even if this board was the official place for feedback, there's no indication in the changelog that it even exists.

Alien Bob · 05-24-2012, 04:56 PM

Well, if you are a user of slackware-current, that means you are part of the development effort toward the next stable release. As such, we expect you already know how to give feedback. Email addresses of Patrick Volkerding and the core team are not so hard to find. This LinuxQuestions.org forum is explicitly mentioned in the Slackware-HOWTO.

Just post your feedback on this forum - that has the highest probability of being noticed and picked up by one or more members of the development team.

Eric

volkerdi · 05-24-2012, 05:04 PM

Here works just fine. Looks like there's a thread for it now, even.

Thanks!

lopid · 05-24-2012, 05:06 PM

I already know. My point was that it's not obvious to somebody who doesn't already know, but has managed to run current (which is easy to do, as there's no sign-up procedure et al). I just think that, when asking for feedback, it would be in one's best interests to mention right then and there how to do that, not expect users to already know. It would make it easier to give feedback, IMHO.

willysr · 05-24-2012, 05:12 PM

It's a rare case when people would run current without knowing the core team's contact

lopid · 05-24-2012, 05:18 PM

Current is pretty stable. I'd say it's a rare case that knowing the core team's contact details ever comes in necessary. I just see every advantage and no disadvantage of making it easier to give feedback like this.

Darth Vader · 05-24-2012, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lopid

I already know. My point was that it's not obvious to somebody who doesn't already know, but has managed to run current (which is easy to do, as there's no sign-up procedure et al). I just think that, when asking for feedback, it would be in one's best interests to mention right then and there how to do that, not expect users to already know. It would make it easier to give feedback, IMHO.

Please enlighten me. They just posted in your thread: the lead developer of Slackware and his right hand.

If you have something to say about Slackware, is exactly when and where.

If you still want to contact a superior person, such as BOB, try a church instead of this forum...

hitest · 05-24-2012, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lopid

I already know. My point was that it's not obvious to somebody who doesn't already know, but has managed to run current (which is easy to do, as there's no sign-up procedure et al). I just think that, when asking for feedback, it would be in one's best interests to mention right then and there how to do that, not expect users to already know. It would make it easier to give feedback, IMHO.

Dude....the man himself (Patrick Volkerding) and one of his lead developers (Eric Hameleers) replied in your thread. What more do you want? This forum is a perfect vehicle for discussing issues with -current.

lopid · 05-25-2012, 03:59 AM

I am not saying that this forum isn't a good place for feedback. I am saying that it might be a good idea to mention this forum in the changelog when asking for feedback. Only Alien Bob and willysr seem to understand that.

ponce · 05-25-2012, 04:43 AM

maybe you missed the beginning of the changelog

Quote:

Thanks to everyone who pitched in on this release: the Slackware team,
the folks producing upstream code, and linuxquestions.org for providing
a great forum for collaboration and testing.

[...]

As always, thanks to the Slackware community for testing, suggestions,
and feedback. :-)

Have fun!

lopid · 05-25-2012, 04:50 AM

Oh, I see! I didn't notice it right at the bottom of the changelog.

the3dfxdude · 05-25-2012, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lopid

Oh, I see! I didn't notice it right at the bottom of the changelog.

Yes, the bottom of the -current changelog. But also the front page at slackware.com, and the top of a -stable changelog. It is also mentioned on the contacts and support page. There is alot of other places to get information. So I think that if you got far enough to know about the change log, you probably already already read something somewhere about who and where.

lopid · 05-25-2012, 04:07 PM

Fair enough. I thought slackware.com was down for everybody, not just me, so I couldn't see it there.

TobiSGD · 05-25-2012, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lopid

Fair enough. I thought slackware.com was down for everybody, not just me, so I couldn't see it there.

It is down for everybody.