[SOLVED] NTFS drive mount problem and KDE log out hangs

Tsuga · 01-20-2024, 08:59 PM

Logged out of one of the users on my system to log in to a different user. When I log out of the first user, KDE hangs, same as what happened here.

I have an additional problem now too. When I get logged in again, as either user, I cannot open an NTFS drive that is on a separate partition on the same hard drive. Here is fstab:

Code:

UUID=08daf54d-7258-4d04-9717-41351df31d89        /                ext4        defaults         1   1
UUID=5619-07C1                                   /boot/efi        vfat        defaults         1   0
UUID=AA3820C238208EFf                            /ntfsc           ntfs3       fmask=133,dmask=022 1   0
UUID=82CC1BFECC1BEAE5                            /ntfsd           ntfs3       fmask=111,dmask=000 1   0

"ntfsd" is the drive I'm concerned with. It's /dev/sda6 on the computer.

If I use Dolphin (my default) for moving through the directory there is this error message:

Quote:

An error occurred while accessing 'D:', the system responded: The requested operation has failed: Error mounting system-managed device /dev/sda6: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda6, missing codepage or helper program, or other error

If I just

Code:

ls /ntfsd

there is no result.

Something I found said to
unmount the drive (umount said it wasn't mounted)
&
use fsck on the drive (there is no fsck.ntfs on my Slackware. I read fsck has to match the filesystem type.)

So I couldn't use that solution.

I tried rebooting Slackware. That doesn't fix the problem with the NTFS drive. It still can't be reached.

I found something that said to log into Windows partition and use chkdsk. That seemed to work. But as soon as I logged out of the user to log in again, on the next login, the NTFS problem was back.

I'm not 100% sure these are related, but these problems both started happening at the same time and the NTFS problem comes up after logging out and back in.

enorbet · 01-20-2024, 11:01 PM

Unless you have some special use case or perhaps a really old kernel, AFAIK "ntfs3" is deprecated and "ntfs" should be the entry in fstab. I could be mistaken as I have vewry few ntfs file systems anymore but FWIW I don't specify any of them anymore in fstab, they automount and they show up as "ntfs" for partition file system type. It's been that way for nearly 2 years and no issues.

mrmazda · 01-20-2024, 11:07 PM

I don't see any ntfs3 as a mount type in https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man...systems.5.html. Have you tried omitting the 3?

michaelk · 01-20-2024, 11:32 PM

As far as I know ntfs refers to the fuse filesystem ntfs-3g and ntfs3 is the new kernel driver. Make sure that you fully shutdown Windows or the filesystems will be left in an unclean state. I don't mess with ntfs very often in linux so I have not really played with ntfs-3g versus ntfs3.

ntfsfix is the very limited chkdsk utility.

allend · 01-21-2024, 05:39 AM

There was a thread in this forum started a few years back when the ntfs3 driver first entered into the kernel that recorded user experiences.

I got bitten by a problem back then, and reverted to the fuse filesystem ntfs-3g. My needs are modest so the performance hit is of no great concern.

PS - NTFS is a Microsoft proprietary file system. The specifications have never been publicly released. The only official tool for checking and repairing the file system is the Windows 'chkdsk' program.

Tsuga · 01-21-2024, 01:16 PM

Thanks for the responses. I thought about @enorbet's comment. I don't usually mess with the kernel. The kernel I was on was 5.15.19. I don't know how old that is exactly because I don't keep track of them. Since I haven't tried updating a kernel before (I've just had them commented out on the blacklist), I tentatively attempted an update. I'm on 5.15.145 now. I still have the KDE hang when I log off a user on the Slackware partition, but I can connect with the NTFS partition after logging out and logging back in.

To reply to some of the other comments, it seemed at the time I set up Slackware (around 2018), I needed to use NTFS-3g. I am running 15.0 (installed as soon as stable was out), but I kept using NTFS-3g because I thought that was still necessary. I hadn't touched the fstab since.

If I run into the problem again, I'll change the fstab to just "ntfs".

Thanks again, everyone!