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Old 08-07-2005, 09:08 AM   #16
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hi chinaman i am going home will b back tomoro only, ysterday i had my sleep at 2o clk in the mornig now feeling tired
 
Old 08-08-2005, 02:12 AM   #17
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how to add modules or enable more features

now everything is working,
now if i want to add some modules or enable some features, what shall i do
recompile kernel?? shall i do the same procedures and replace the image %am i right

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but one problem as the system boots, my fonts are big, earlier it will become small after some time while boo
when i changed vga = normal to vga = 773 it resulted n a blank screen
then i reread teh thread by jumbo and found i havnt enabled CONFIG_FB_VESA
# Graphics support
# CONFIG_FB_VESA is not set %and some more

it says, tehn only we get the boot logo and small fonts
 
Old 08-08-2005, 02:21 AM   #18
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You will need to recompile it because you need those features built-in into the kernel (a Y in the config file or a * on the menuconfig menu). You could avoid rebuilding if you could use them as modules but that's not the case.
 
Old 08-08-2005, 03:15 AM   #19
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why should i enable CONFIG_FB_VESA if i have a board of intel and i already selected the below things
%no other graphics card but onboard intel extreme graphics i810
CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT=y
CONFIG_FB_I810=m
CONFIG_FB_I810_GTF=y
CONFIG_FB_INTEL=y
quoted :gbonvehi
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You will need to recompile it because ...
as the way i had done earlier in this thread %by chinaman
 
Old 08-08-2005, 03:16 AM   #20
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is it needed

why should i enable CONFIG_FB_VESA if i have a board of intel and i already selected the below things
%no other graphics card but onboard intel extreme graphics i810
CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT=y
CONFIG_FB_I810=m
CONFIG_FB_I810_GTF=y
CONFIG_FB_INTEL=y
quoted :gbonvehi
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You will need to recompile it because ...
recompile as the way i had done earlier in this thread ??%by chinaman

Last edited by rkrishna; 08-08-2005 at 03:49 AM.
 
Old 08-08-2005, 03:40 AM   #21
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Framebuffer support needs to be built into (not module) your kernel.
I don't know if the Intel options will work. With my Nvidia card,
the new nvidiafb option does not work. This is what I have
Code:
# Graphics support
#
CONFIG_FB=y
CONFIG_FB_CFB_FILLRECT=y
CONFIG_FB_CFB_COPYAREA=y
CONFIG_FB_CFB_IMAGEBLIT=y
CONFIG_FB_SOFT_CURSOR=y
# CONFIG_FB_MACMODES is not set
# CONFIG_FB_MODE_HELPERS is not set
# CONFIG_FB_TILEBLITTING is not set
# CONFIG_FB_CIRRUS is not set
# CONFIG_FB_PM2 is not set
# CONFIG_FB_CYBER2000 is not set
# CONFIG_FB_ASILIANT is not set
# CONFIG_FB_IMSTT is not set
# CONFIG_FB_VGA16 is not set
CONFIG_FB_VESA=y
CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT=y
# CONFIG_FB_HGA is not set
# CONFIG_FB_NVIDIA is not set
# CONFIG_FB_RIVA is not set
# CONFIG_FB_I810 is not set
# CONFIG_FB_INTEL is not set
# CONFIG_FB_MATROX is not set
# CONFIG_FB_RADEON_OLD is not set
# CONFIG_FB_RADEON is not set
# CONFIG_FB_ATY128 is not set
# CONFIG_FB_ATY is not set
# CONFIG_FB_SAVAGE is not set
# CONFIG_FB_SIS is not set
# CONFIG_FB_NEOMAGIC is not set
# CONFIG_FB_KYRO is not set
# CONFIG_FB_3DFX is not set
# CONFIG_FB_VOODOO1 is not set
# CONFIG_FB_TRIDENT is not set
# CONFIG_FB_GEODE is not set
# CONFIG_FB_S1D13XXX is not set
# CONFIG_FB_VIRTUAL is not set

#
# Console display driver support
#
CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_FONTS=y
# CONFIG_FONT_8x8 is not set
CONFIG_FONT_8x16=y
# CONFIG_FONT_6x11 is not set
# CONFIG_FONT_PEARL_8x8 is not set
# CONFIG_FONT_ACORN_8x8 is not set
# CONFIG_FONT_MINI_4x6 is not set
# CONFIG_FONT_SUN8x16 is not set
# CONFIG_FONT_SUN12x22 is not set

#
# Logo configuration
#
CONFIG_LOGO=y
# CONFIG_LOGO_LINUX_MONO is not set
# CONFIG_LOGO_LINUX_VGA16 is not set
CONFIG_LOGO_LINUX_CLUT224=y
# CONFIG_BACKLIGHT_LCD_SUPPORT is not set
I don't think you would benefit from the Intel framebuffer, but you
can build it and try.

For other modules, there is another option in Slackware other than
recompiling your kernel. The file /etc/rc.d/rc.modules loads extra
drivers into the Linux kernel. If there is a piece of hardware that you
forgot to compile you can check that file. If it's support is in there, you
can uncomment the line and it will be loaded and you can then use it
without recompiling the kernel.

For instance, my server has a Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5702
Gigabit Ethernet NIC, and at one time there wasn't support in the kernel
for that, but Pat had a module in /etc/rc.d/rc.modules. So I would open the
file and uncomment it and be able to use it without recompiling the kernel.

Is there a particular device you have for which you didn't compile support?

Good job for being persistent and getting your kernel to boot! And don't
let those Windoze guys bother you ... they will have a day when some
worm, virus, or trojan disrupts their system. You might even be able to
help them recover it using a Linux LiveCD. And just remember how poorly
Micro$loth Windoze is at multi-tasking. Today I needed to copy a VCD, and
Slackware couldn't do it, so I booted Windoze to do it in Nero. I only had
the one app, Nero launched, and it was burning the CD. I opened one more
app, my Chinese software called Wenlin, and it opened very slowly.

In Slackware I can do so many things at one time...it would amaze you!
 
Old 08-08-2005, 05:13 AM   #22
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recompiling ???

# Console display driver support
#
CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_MDA_CONSOLE=m
CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE=m ---->[B] %change to y ??[B]
CONFIG_FONTS=y
CONFIG_FONT_8x8=y
CONFIG_FONT_8x16=y

LOGO THING
#
# Logo configuration
#
CONFIG_LOGO=y
CONFIG_LOGO_LINUX_MONO=y %what about these
CONFIG_LOGO_LINUX_VGA16=y % ''
CONFIG_LOGO_LINUX_CLUT224=y % ''
***********
so i wht abt recompiling, shall i start make xconfig and start????
%will it cause an error if i open "make xconfig", whenever i got chance i could read help and enable or disable things and a final compilation
so tht i can concentrate on checked or added things, and make changes on tht
i had make my ethernet things directly into kernel not as a module
all usb stuffs are enabled %if so if i chmod -x the hotplug thing will improve kernel behaviuor
**********
i like the above example of ethernet card


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they will have a day when some
worm, virus, or trojan disrupts their system.
my earlier job was tht now learnig and doing things in slack
i was latexing so what i do is learn about VIM include latex now using vimlatex for latexing, now started [B]mc[B]

many times i used slax to retrive their files hi , but i hate knoppix
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Today I needed to copy a VCD, and Slackware couldn't do it,
wont xcdroast do the job ??
 
Old 08-08-2005, 06:19 AM   #23
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Today I needed to copy a VCD, and Slackware couldn't do it
Try :
Code:
cdrdao copy --device ATA:1,0,0 --source-device ATA:1,1,0
Where source device is the cdrom device and device is the burner
(do a cdrdao scanbus to find correct values) You could also use
the same device in source-device and device

rkrishna, try enable CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE as built in and
for my part, I prefer compile ethernet driver as modules (never had
problem with that) some have reported issue when compile is as built-in
 
Old 08-08-2005, 09:10 AM   #24
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let me know should i reinstall kernel?? plz

well keefaz mee to learned a copy command
so i need to recompile the kernel is in't it??
also plz direct me

will it cause an error if i open "make xconfig", whenever i got chance, (so tht i can take much more time on reading help)
i could read help and enable or disable things and a final compilation

can i replace the running vmliz ????
 
Old 08-08-2005, 09:15 AM   #25
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rkrishna

You should CD to your linux-2.6.12.3/ directory, then issue:
$ make xconfig (make your changes then save the file)
$ make
then su to root and
# cp System.map /boot/System.map-2.6.12.3 ; ln -sf /boot/System.map-2.6.12.3 /boot/System.map
# make modules_install
# cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12.3
# lilo
# reboot

The above steps will replace your present:
/boot/vmliuz-2.6.12.3
/boot/System.map-2.6.12.3
./linux-2.6.12.3/.config (and sub directories)
/lib/modules/2.6.12.3/
with these new ones.

And you should be set with a new kernel and modules.

Is is okay to build you ethernet into your kernel, or as a module.
I have 5 Slackware boxen here and do it both ways...your choice.

You will have to experiment with hotplug. I can't really tell you
how well it will work for your box.

Framebuffer console I would build in. I just posted my configuration
and you can do them all like mine. If you want to know what they
do, read the information when you select them in "make xconfig".

I need to learn LaTeX to use for my writing.

I don't have xcdroast on this system.

keefaz,

Thanks, mate! I issued it like this:
Code:
su -c "cdrdao copy --device /dev/hdb --source-device /dev/hdc"
reading from the CD-RW and burning to the DVD+/-RW and it worked fine!

Edit: And btw ... Slackware-10.2 is not released yet, so the
closest you can have is Slackware -current. There will be other
changes before it's released I do believe ...

Last edited by Bruce Hill; 08-08-2005 at 09:22 AM.
 
Old 08-08-2005, 09:27 AM   #26
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thnk u all

i will have my own time and read help, wil compile thins
thanku for all, by any chance if i have a doubt i will ask u people

am gald to ask with this company, not feeling alone

regads friends

note: after sending the post only i saw the reply from c'man
 
Old 08-08-2005, 10:33 AM   #27
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And just remember how poorly
Micro$loth Windoze is at multi-tasking. Today I needed to copy a VCD, and
Slackware couldn't do it, so I booted Windoze to do it in Nero. I only had
the one app, Nero launched, and it was burning the CD. I opened one more
app, my Chinese software called Wenlin, and it opened very slowly.
I think you are wrong here, contrary to what you say windows (at least nt based) has very good multitasking. I can burn a cd or dvd while playing a dvd, it all depends on how you have configured your environnement. I'm a Slackware and windows user for many years and I can't get used to those beople who say things against windows which are not even true.
 
Old 08-08-2005, 11:18 AM   #28
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Originally posted by glussier
I think you are wrong here, contrary to what you say windows (at least nt based) has very good multitasking. I can burn a cd or dvd while playing a dvd, it all depends on how you have configured your environnement. I'm a Slackware and windows user for many years and I can't get used to those beople who say things against windows which are not even true.
Baloney ... try this on Windoze, any NT (NT, Win2K, WinXP).
These are what I've got going on this box right now. First, you
can't get the apps to launch in Windoze, but if you could, it
would choke and die ...
Code:
mingdao@james:~$ ps -aux
Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html
USER       PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND
root         1  0.0  0.0   684  248 ?        S    Aug07   0:00 init [3]       
root         2  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SN   Aug07   0:00 [ksoftirqd/0]
root         3  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S<   Aug07   0:00 [events/0]
root         4  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S<   Aug07   0:00 [khelper]
root         5  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S<   Aug07   0:00 [kthread]
root         7  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S<   Aug07   0:00 [kblockd/0]
root        56  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S    Aug07   0:00 [pdflush]
root        57  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S    Aug07   0:04 [pdflush]
root        59  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S<   Aug07   0:00 [aio/0]
root        10  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S    Aug07   0:00 [khubd]
root        58  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S    Aug07   0:05 [kswapd0]
root       132  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S    Aug07   0:00 [kseriod]
root       155  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S<   Aug07   0:00 [ata/0]
root       157  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S    Aug07   0:00 [scsi_eh_0]
root       158  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S    Aug07   0:00 [scsi_eh_1]
root       178  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S<   Aug07   0:00 [reiserfs/0]
root       227  0.0  0.0  1468  448 ?        S<s  Aug07   0:00 udevd
root       877  0.0  0.0  1648  624 ?        Ss   Aug07   0:00 /usr/sbin/syslogd
root       880  0.0  0.0  1608  452 ?        Ss   Aug07   0:00 /usr/sbin/klogd -c 3 -x
root       936  0.0  0.0  1512  508 ?        Ss   Aug07   0:00 /usr/sbin/inetd
root      1188  0.0  0.1  3372 1508 ?        Ss   Aug07   0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
root      1620  0.0  0.2  5016 2192 ?        Ss   Aug07   0:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd
root      2509  0.0  0.0  1672  632 ?        S    Aug07   0:00 /usr/sbin/crond -l10
daemon    2542  0.0  0.0  1800  684 ?        Ss   Aug07   0:00 /usr/sbin/atd -b 15 -l 1
root      2791  0.0  0.0  1476  468 ?        Ss   Aug07   0:00 vde_switch -tap tap0 -daemon
root      2836  0.0  0.0  1872  748 ?        S    Aug07   0:00 /usr/sbin/dnsmasq --log-queries --user=named --dhcp-leasefile=/var/state/dhcp/qemu-dhcpd.leases --dhcp-ran
mingdao   2837  0.0  0.1  3344 1964 tty1     Ss   Aug07   0:00 -bash
root      2838  0.0  0.0  1480  488 tty2     Ss+  Aug07   0:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty2 linux
root      2839  0.0  0.0  1480  484 tty3     Ss+  Aug07   0:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty3 linux
root      2840  0.0  0.0  1480  488 tty4     Ss+  Aug07   0:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty4 linux
root      2841  0.0  0.0  1480  488 tty5     Ss+  Aug07   0:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty5 linux
root      2842  0.0  0.0  1476  484 tty6     Ss+  Aug07   0:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty6 linux
mingdao   4118  0.0  0.6  8612 6696 tty1     S    Aug07   0:00 Xvnc :1 -desktop james:1 (mingdao) -httpd /usr/share/vnc/classes -auth /home/mingdao/.Xauthority -geometry
mingdao   4127  0.0  0.1  3044 1252 tty1     S    Aug07   0:00 vncconfig -iconic
mingdao   4129  0.0  0.1  3768 1956 tty1     S    Aug07   0:00 twm
mingdao   4144  0.0  0.1  2952 1524 tty1     S+   Aug07   0:00 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/startx
mingdao   4155  0.0  0.0  2292  660 tty1     S+   Aug07   0:00 xinit /home/mingdao/.xinitrc --
root      4156  1.3 14.1 149944 146208 ?     SL   Aug07  31:36 X :0
mingdao   4175  0.0  0.4  7012 4180 tty1     S    Aug07   0:35 /usr/X11R6/bin/fluxbox
mingdao   4222  0.0  0.1  2980 1584 ?        Ss   Aug07   0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/firefox
mingdao   4243  0.0  0.1  3016 1596 ?        S    Aug07   0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/firefox-1.0.5/run-mozilla.sh /usr/lib/firefox-1.0.5/firefox-bin
mingdao   4248  0.4  7.7 158924 80660 ?      Sl   Aug07  11:17 /usr/lib/firefox-1.0.5/firefox-bin
mingdao   4259  0.1  0.7 13272 8008 ?        Ss   Aug07   2:33 gkrellm
mingdao   4270  0.0  0.3  6016 3408 ?        Ss   Aug07   0:01 xterm -ls
mingdao   4272  0.0  0.1  3340 1940 pts/1    Ss   Aug07   0:00 -bash
mingdao   4286  0.0  0.3  6008 3456 ?        Ss   Aug07   0:01 xterm -ls
mingdao   4288  0.0  0.1  3340 1980 pts/2    Ss   Aug07   0:00 -bash
mingdao   4302  0.1  1.8 43864 19148 ?       Ss   Aug07   2:25 gaim
mingdao   4308  0.0  0.1  3152 1612 ?        Ss   Aug07   0:00 /usr/bin/aterm -ls -bg black -fg white +sb -tr -sh 65 -geometry 71x24 -name tunnel
mingdao   4309  0.0  0.1  3336 1940 pts/3    Ss   Aug07   0:00 -bash
mingdao   4376  0.0  0.3  6016 3396 ?        Ss   Aug07   0:00 xterm -ls
mingdao   4378  0.0  0.1  3332 1932 pts/4    Ss   Aug07   0:00 -bash
mingdao   4392  0.0  0.1  3300 1636 pts/4    S+   Aug07   0:00 ssh 192.168.1.11
mingdao   4474  0.0  0.3  6012 3340 ?        Ss   Aug07   0:00 xterm -ls
mingdao   4476  0.0  0.1  3344 1960 pts/5    Ss   Aug07   0:00 -bash
mingdao   5294  0.0  0.1  3464 1684 pts/1    S+   Aug07   0:00 ssh 192.168.1.11
mingdao   5540  0.0  0.7 28188 7752 ?        S    Aug07   0:04 /opt/kde/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 60 -m artsmessage -l 3 -f
mingdao   7041  0.0  0.3  6020 3432 ?        Ss   Aug08   0:01 xterm -ls
mingdao   7043  0.0  0.1  3344 1976 pts/0    Ss+  Aug08   0:00 -bash
mingdao   4738  0.0  0.3  6016 3404 ?        Ss   Aug08   0:00 xterm -ls
mingdao   4740  0.0  0.1  3340 1976 pts/6    Ss+  Aug08   0:00 -bash
mingdao   5244  1.5  2.7 32976 28968 ?       Ss   Aug08  11:25 /usr/bin/endeavour2
mingdao   6088  0.0  0.1  3608 1844 pts/3    S+   Aug08   0:00 ssh -o TCPKeepAlive=yes -D 9999 -L 31796:127.0.0.1:8080 -L 32459:tusk.cotse.net:8888 [server_address_removed]
mingdao   6177  0.0  0.1  2984 1588 ?        Ss   Aug08   0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/thunderbird
mingdao   6199  0.0  0.1  3020 1600 ?        S    Aug08   0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/thunderbird-1.0.5/run-mozilla.sh /usr/lib/thunderbird-1.0.5/thunderbird-bin
mingdao   6204  0.9  4.7 154364 48952 ?      Sl   Aug08   2:23 /usr/lib/thunderbird-1.0.5/thunderbird-bin
mingdao   6644  1.6  0.4  6552 4824 pts/5    S+   Aug08   2:52 vncviewer paul:1
mingdao   7274  0.0  0.3  6200 3548 ?        Ss   Aug08   0:00 xterm -ls
mingdao   7276  0.0  0.1  3336 1956 pts/7    Ss   Aug08   0:00 -bash
root      7350  0.6  0.1  3536 1656 pts/2    D+   00:05   0:00 cdrdao copy --device /dev/hdb --source-device /dev/hdc
mingdao   7351  0.0  0.0  2480  864 pts/7    R+   00:05   0:00 ps -aux
mingdao@james:~$
and then also let's see what's up with the CPU and memory...
Code:
mingdao@james:~$ free -m
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:          1011        998         13          0         64        598
-/+ buffers/cache:        334        677
Swap:          996          0        996
geez, how does that look from the topside?
Code:
top - 00:08:59 up 1 day, 16:09,  8 users,  load average: 1.03, 0.59, 0.28
Tasks:  71 total,   1 running,  70 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  1.0% us,  0.7% sy,  0.0% ni, 97.7% id,  0.0% wa,  0.3% hi,  0.3% si
Mem:   1036280k total,  1022884k used,    13396k free,    66512k buffers
Swap:  1020088k total,        0k used,  1020088k free,   599612k cached
and everything's still running snappy. ;)

Sorry, mate, but I've read and heard about all the Mirco$loth FUD I can stand.

Let's see you put up some comparable stats from your NT box, okay?
Just for a friendly technical comparison, rather than emotions...
 
Old 08-08-2005, 12:05 PM   #29
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What are you trying to prove? Most of what you top is showing are not processes which are using much i/o.

Showing tops displaying 50 or so processes doesn't prove much, specially when most of these processes are really very light load on a machine.
 
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What are you trying to prove? Most of what you top is showing are not processes which are using much i/o.

Showing tops displaying 50 or so processes doesn't prove much, specially when most of these processes are really very light load on a machine.
You'll never produce any evidence of your beloved Windoze
doing anywhere near the processes Slackware can run. We
can all read man pages, so if we didn't already know what
the output showed, we'd read and find out.

What I'm trying to prove is that you're saying Windoze "has
very good multitasking" and I disagree, as does everyone
who understands the OS. I'd like for you to produce some
evidence of Windoze performing the tasks that I've displayed
for you ... but alas, it can't.
 
  


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