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I've seen this mentality all too often where Slackware users try to make others believe they are 'superior' and in the *real world* we all know (or should know) that this is nothing but wild fantasy and fabrication.
You should have seen the tempo in the old Slackware news group. Noobs were sacrificed daily!
Nobody said anything about changing the theme, all you gotta do is have a little fun. Pat could put up a quick reminder on the main page to let people know that yes, we are, in fact, still here
Has anyone thought, or bothered, to ask Patrick, or any of the Slackware Team guys, what their feelings/reasons are regarding slackware.com?
There's so many decisions being made about what could, or should, be and the fundamental thing about that website is that it's fully functional and working perfectly.
The only point of debate I'm reading in this thread of any relevance is a somewhat self-centered lack of convenient information for a few disgruntled end-users, apparently at the top of the homepage.
So, maybe slackware.com doesn't offer support on "How-to read instructions properly" or "How-to find out if Slackware is dead yet".
Whose problem is that to solve? Not slackware.com's that's for sure.
People have lost the art of slack if they're worried about a website. A real slacker prefers to keep it the way it is. Outdated, confusing and inaccurate. In Slackware inertia is the greatest of the beatitudes, and making converts is the last thing we want.
We should leave the fetish for outdated, confusing and inaccurate information to the theologians.
To all the folks responding to my "Dated How?/POS" post I'd just like to say... "Well Duh!". Of course some stuff is dated (it's free of charge), and it is true that most distros are diligent about keeping the base page up to date but Slackware is not "other distros" in that it is not built by committee but basically by a singular vision. More importantly how many of "other distros" give responses online from any of the main devs? All the Heavy Hitters on Slackware do and regularly, including The Man Himself. Slackware is Free as in Free Beer unless one voluntarily supports it so what exactly can one expect for free? I'm embarrassed to admit that I had let almost 10 years slide by before I donated again this November, but there were several threads on that subject to deal with the ripoff "Slackware Store" so it was not difficult to determine what was legit. I used PayPal.
Updating the general install instructions? Who doesn't realize from numerous sources that optical and USB boot are not only a given but exceptionally valuable as "Boot/Rescue" devices, not to mention Alien Bob's excellent and full OpSys "SlaklLive" versions? Perhaps in a perfect World where visionaries are paid well commensurate with their vision and service there would be zero flaws, but in this world I prefer my flaws to stay away from the nuts and bolts and stick to the brochure.
It is amazing how people are keep struggling during debating, to make sure to win with the best argument possible, even when they know deep inside, they are wrong.
This thread should die, I can smell the sectism growing bigger, and bigger.
Last edited by Bindestreck; 02-13-2020 at 05:26 AM.
It is amazing how people are keep struggling during debating, to make sure to win with the best argument possible, even when they know deep inside, they are wrong.
This thread should die, I can smell the sectism growing bigger, and bigger.
I wondered why there are 13 pages of this thread, when the first response was adequate (although could have been further simplified by removing the first sentence, as it was superfluous and carried implications).
I can't find the post but I believe PV had commented at one point that the website is kind of broken and he isn't sure how to fix it, and that posting 'news' is really just him hand modifying a file. So unless my memory fails me and I'm making this up, then yeah I'd say it's pretty dated. I personally agree with not wanting some crazy bloated stupid website.
If this really is the case, is anyone up for putting together a working group where we (in another thread preferably) get together and bash out some ideas? PV does respond to direct emails, although I'm very careful when I send them not wanting to distract him. If he's OK for someone else to work on this I don't honestly think we'll struggle to improve on what's there. Just wondering if anyone else besides me is prepared to volunteer coding effort. I see this as way more productive and interesting than writing my next HOWTO.
I'm thinking somewhat long-term, but that probably means short-term in slack-years
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