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Old 02-26-2020, 08:03 AM   #31
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Well I finally got around to installing it and playing around with it. It's nice and I am comfortable with vi, but, mc is still my preferred CLI file manager.
 
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Old 02-26-2020, 08:46 AM   #32
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I can agree whole heartedly. Just about anything you say is considered racists or offensive because people are so sensitive. I can't be around people who cry and complain about everything. [SIS] Schit is Sad!!
I'm curious as to how you think this is helpful or relevant enough to warrant posting -- everybody here who does not think fff should be included thus far has a good reason.
 
Old 02-26-2020, 08:58 AM   #33
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I'm curious as to how you think this is helpful or relevant enough to warrant posting -- everybody here who does not think fff should be included thus far has a good reason.
I was agreeing with a post and quoted it. You seem to be crying and complaining being all sensitive and whatnot. Leave me alone.

Is this relevant enough since I'm quoting your post as well?

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Old 02-26-2020, 09:14 AM   #34
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Slackware.
Professional Linux.

Sounds good to me.
 
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Old 02-26-2020, 09:20 AM   #35
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Slackware.
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Sounds good to me.
Anything with Pro/Professional in it sounds like top of the line.
 
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Old 02-26-2020, 09:31 AM   #36
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I was agreeing with a post and quoted it. You seem to be crying and complaining being all sensitive and whatnot. Leave me alone.

Is this relevant enough since I'm quoting your post as well?
I'm pretty chill, actually. No need to be presumptuous.
 
Old 02-26-2020, 09:37 AM   #37
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I despise censorship and find it incredibly inane that so many people still get upset over a specific word but not upset about the thing itself that word describes. That said I think the Author should rename it "[Expletive!] File Manager" or just "{Expletive!}" 8 ^ P
I would have suggested "FFF File Manager". Or would that be too unoriginal?

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Old 02-26-2020, 09:49 AM   #38
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I would have suggested "FFF File Manager". Or would that be too unoriginal?
Maybe add a free in there so it can be a recursive acronym in the style of GNU?
 
Old 02-26-2020, 10:11 AM   #39
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That looks pretty cool, but to be honest I think the name alone will keep it out of Slackware...
I still recall the brouhaha in some circles over the inclusion in National Semiconductor's parts catalog of the "Damn Fast Operational Amplifier" back in the '80s. I'm guessing that those folks would have a literal stroke over this application's name. :^)
 
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Old 02-26-2020, 10:55 AM   #40
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Perhaps "Freaking Fast Filemanager"? It's like the fvwm window manager, where nobody knows what the letter "f" stands for ;-)
 
Old 02-26-2020, 10:55 AM   #41
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As a positive aspect of the name, it has probably given this application way more attention than it otherwise would have gotten, at least here.

Anyway, regarding the application itself, unless it can replace the functionality of Midnight Commander (including accessing remote machines), I'm not interested. Based on the video, it doesn't even support multiple panes or a command line. So, while it may be nifty, I don't see much that would warrant its inclusion.

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Old 02-26-2020, 11:26 AM   #42
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Meh...give me my krusader and I'll be happy. Yeah, fast like that file manager is okay, but *I* won't be able to do things any faster than I can now, so krusader works just fine and is fast also - not as fast as fff, but good enough. Besides that too, mc is 'fast' and I like it too over that fff, so far as I can tell.
 
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Old 02-26-2020, 01:13 PM   #43
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I'm curious as to how you think this is helpful or relevant enough to warrant posting -- everybody here who does not think fff should be included thus far has a good reason.
Be careful though in defining what constitutes "good reason". I think PatV is wise to not take on any unnecessary negative baggage even if it does cave in to inanity. Let them deal with their inanity... "When in Rome...." right? However if you think "good reason" is because you find the word "fucking" offensive yourself you might benefit by researching exactly what makes for expletives. They change all the time since by design they require an ability to shock.

One of my Grandmothers was offended by medical words used to describe body parts, quite literally like even "navel". To her that was tantamount to cursing and only references like "bellybutton" were acceptable in "polite company". I've heard some Christian city dwelers say they avoid swearing by using words like "merde" instead of "shit". I suppose they assume God doesn't translate French This is clearly prejudice and not over an actual thing but a symbol for a thing. A great number of accepted expletives and obscenities in the UK and US are hangovers literally from as far back as the Norman Conquest when all Anglo Saxon words were considered barbaric. The word "barbaric" itself is derived from a Roman pejorative describing foreign languages as "bar bar" revealing far more about Roman ignorance and prejudice than the "barbarians" they castigated and denigrated.

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Old 02-26-2020, 01:45 PM   #44
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Be careful though in defining what constitutes "good reason". I think PatV is wise to not take on any unnecessary negative baggage even if it does cave in to inanity. Let them deal with their inanity... "When in Rome...." right? However if you think "good reason" is because you find the word "fucking" offensive yourself you might benefit by researching exactly what makes for expletives. They change all the time since by design they require an ability to shock.

One of my Grandmothers was offended by medical words used to describe body parts, quite literally like even "navel". To her that was tantamount to cursing and only references like "bellybutton" were acceptable in "polite company". I've heard some Christian city dwelers say they avoid swearing by using words like "merde" instead of "shit". I suppose they assume God doesn't translate French This is clearly prejudice and not over an actual thing but a symbol for a thing. A great number of accepted expletives and obscenities in the UK and US are hangovers literally from as far back as the Norman Conquest when all Anglo Saxon words were considered barbaric. The word "barbaric" itself is derived from a Roman pejorative describing foreign languages as "bar bar" revealing far more about Roman ignorance and prejudice than the "barbarians" they castigated and denigrated.
I'm not personally offended by cursing. I also am fully aware of the etymology of "barbarian." I don't believe anyone here has expressed that their reasoning for a lack of inclusion is that they are personally offended, only that it can generate image issues or that the file manager isn't better or more needed than, say, mc.
 
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Old 02-26-2020, 01:49 PM   #45
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Meh...give me my krusader and I'll be happy. Yeah, fast like that file manager is okay, but *I* won't be able to do things any faster than I can now, so krusader works just fine and is fast also - not as fast as fff, but good enough. Besides that too, mc is 'fast' and I like it too over that fff, so far as I can tell.
I like nnn. UX is a bit clunky, but it's performant and usable.

There's also lf, but I don't have an opinion on it yet.

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