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Old 08-13-2014, 04:37 PM   #1
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I miss KDE 3.5.10


I miss KDE 3.5.10

Gawd, I miss KDE 3.5.10, that's all I want to say!



anyone know how long slackware 12.2 will continue to be supported for under slack'?

(not support for KDE 3.5.10, I understand QT/licensing and devel' difficulties + Trinity etc)
I am referring to support/security patches for slack' 12.2 not patches for KDE 3.5.10)

Regards,

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Old 08-13-2014, 06:05 PM   #2
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Slackware 12.2 official support stopped Dec 2013, see
slackware.osuosl.org
 
Old 08-13-2014, 07:44 PM   #3
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does anyone have any slackbuild pkgs for trinity source for 13 / 1337 / 14 / 14.1 ?


or are we building from source?
 
Old 08-13-2014, 07:45 PM   #4
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KDE (and Gnome for that matter) always seemed bloated to me..
 
Old 08-13-2014, 09:06 PM   #5
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There's a reason I use E17 and Fluxbox for my GUIs.

I really like many KDE applications and use them daily; among them are Konsole, Konqueror, Okular, Kate, Ksnapshot, and KolourPaint. KDE applications are very well-designed and nicely configurable, but KDE as a desktop does too many ancillary things I really don't need done and am not interested in. It is visually striking, but the visual beauty is not worth the CPU cycles.

I can sum up my opinion of Gnome 3 in this way: It is Unity done right. I have no use for either of them.

XFCE is very nice, but I don't like the way the right-click menu works. LXDE is great for low-resource machines.

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Old 08-13-2014, 10:42 PM   #6
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Yea, I thought KDE 3.5.x was about the ultimate DE in many ways... and left KDE when the counter was incremented to 4.x.

But I left for Fluxbox and could not be happier. Takes a little menu management and playing with styles, but very little and small price to pay for the perfect level of function and light weight it provides! I considered Trinity for a while, but decided that (for myself) it was better to just move on.

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Old 08-13-2014, 10:52 PM   #7
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Trinity has a website with instructions:

http://www.trinitydesktop.org/installation.php
 
Old 08-13-2014, 11:04 PM   #8
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Yea, I thought KDE 3.5.x was about the ultimate DE in many ways... and left KDE when the counter was incremented to 4.x.

But I left for Fluxbox and could not be happier. Takes a little menu management and playing with styles, but very little and small price to pay for the perfect level of function and light weight it provides! I considered Trinity for a while, but decided that (for myself) it was better to just move on.
Yeah, KDE 3.5x was indeed awesome. I've moved to XFCE on most of my PCs. I also like Fluxbox.
 
Old 08-14-2014, 01:05 AM   #9
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what could you do with KDE3 that does not work with KDE4 ?
and please do not tell me tat KDE4 dose use much more resources
KDE4 was horrible at its beginning, but is pretty stable since several time.
so if you start with kde4.10 or later, you will need some days to get use to it and find what you need and how to configure, and you will stop missing KDE3
 
Old 08-14-2014, 01:34 AM   #10
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what could you do with KDE3 that does not work with KDE4 ?
and please do not tell me tat KDE4 dose use much more resources
KDE4 was horrible at its beginning, but is pretty stable since several time.
so if you start with kde4.10 or later, you will need some days to get use to it and find what you need and how to configure, and you will stop missing KDE3
Well, it is not a question of "What could KDE3.5 do that KDE4 cannot?".

To re-quote a previous post in this thread...

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KDE applications are very well-designed and nicely configurable, but KDE as a desktop does too many ancillary things I really don't need done and am not interested in. It is visually striking, but the visual beauty is not worth the CPU cycles.
In my own case, early KDE4 drove me away, and recent KDE4, however much improved, when contrasted with lighter weight WMs/DEs, keeps me away. Whether you want to hear it or not, it wastes far too many resources on features and functions that are of no interest or value to me.

And one additional point - I had invested much time and some actual monetary cost in providing my own support capability for KDE3 (on Mandriva), for myself and quite a few others who I had converted from some other OS - I was content with that arrangement. KDE4 made all that pretty worthless overnight and left me in a very bad position with those others, several of whom had business uses that depended on it and me for survival.

I decided to not find myself in that position again and after a bit of research into options arrived at Slackware and Fluxbox backed by a local archive of sources, build scripts and packages, all of which I can manage and maintain well enough myself if necessary - and very little anxiety about unwanted surprises! KDE4 just doesn't fit that model any more.

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Old 08-14-2014, 02:29 AM   #11
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There are also unsupported x86 and x86_64 builds of KDE 3.5.10:
http://slackware.osuosl.org/unsuppor...for-slack13.0/
 
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Old 08-14-2014, 05:18 AM   #12
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you know turn off desktop composite and set the menu to vintage. Then use knoqueror instead of dolphin. If you really look at what slackware 14.1 has done to bring
the resource use down. plus other tips and tricks to turn other services off. if your machine can run 3.5.10 smooth I see no reason why 4.10.5. would not work well for you. I had the same machine on those systems amd phenom II X2 4 gigs of ram. 14.1 kde ran the best. I finally updated that 2 to a 4 core and use that as my media box.

When kde 4.0 came out it was a pig on ram had many issues I was glad it did not go into slk 12.2 10.2 and 12.2 and 13.7 have been my favorites.

14.1 I feel is a superior system over 14.0. Kde in 14.1 has been my favorite kde of them all 4.10.5. if your system meets the requirements to run kde4
then I think you would or could be happy.
 
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Old 08-14-2014, 11:16 AM   #13
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Moved away after KDE4 release as well, quit KDE and Koffice as soon as I had problem to just work with spreadsheets, installed open office and run Xfce and could get the work done again.
 
Old 08-14-2014, 12:00 PM   #14
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I switched over to LibreOffice around the time of kde4 as well.
I wouldn't call kde4 bloated as it works well on my old hardware. I do however question why dolphin and Konquror which are basically the same. I miss the ability to show metadata in the details view of either.
 
Old 08-14-2014, 06:29 PM   #15
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psJust one more reason I love Slackware = Let everyone else bear the brunt of "not ready for primetime" software (which btw KDE clearly stated when so many "new and improved!" distros just couldn't wait and dealt KDE a dirty blow) while we get serious stabilty. That said, it is my understanding that in the latest releases of KDE, nepomuk has been deprecated. I am betting that the remaining 2 of "the evil 3" will soon follow. Despite that and in reference to the version we are presently using, I hope you guys realize that in maybe 5 minutes you can disable akonadi and nepomuk, and while losing a few features, approach the footprint of a default Xfce install with a lot more functionality. It seems to me that far too many people abandoned KDE from such a "bad taste in their mouths" when the cook said it wasn't ready yet and never returned long enough to give it a real tryout or by then, were so locked into their alternative, any losses were acceptable.

PS - I don't miss 3.5 because I still have it when I want it. I don't care if it and the opsys version is "unsupported". I support it and haven't had anything but minor annoyances on a fully installed old version and of course LiveCDs like SlaxRemix still work great and have KDE 3.5 with translucency.

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