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Old 08-02-2021, 12:32 AM   #16
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Just to make sure i understand, does "other software" here mean any software installed after leaving the installer, or perhaps from 3rd party ? I am not sure.
"Other software" in this case means anything you've installed using a thirdparty repository.
This includes packages from AlienBob, slackbuilds.org, ...

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And does this mean that when updating the system there is no compiling going on or rather that everything that is updated is compiled?
Packages from the "original" repository don't have to be compiled.
Many "thirdparty" packages (AlienBob's packages for example) don't have to be compiled either.
Packages from slackbuilds.org are built from source and therefore have to be compiled.
 
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Old 08-02-2021, 07:31 AM   #17
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Slackware gives you the option to upgrade packages or compile from source
THANKS ! I think I have got my answer !

But just to make sure : does that mean that updates (kind of by definition) happen (just) in terms of packages ? (that was my understanding)
 
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If you're using slackpkg or pkgtools, you're updating via binary. You can also grab any slackbuild's build directory and build the package yourself. (Sometimes you need to do this...)

I'm not using Alien Bob's DAW, but I am using a few other audio-related packages of his: frescobaldi, obs-studio, and supercollider. Thing to be careful of is that if you update slackware-current, odds are good something will need to be recompiled against the newer libraries. For instance ImageMagick updates often break obs, which means I have to rebuild that one. Sometimes python updates can break frescobaldi and lilypond, but that hasn't happened in awhile. (Not since the switchover to python 3.) Jack seems to be OK most of the time.

If you update, and something breaks, try downloading the slackbuild (It's in the "build" directory) and recompile the thing. 99% of the time that fixes it.

Also, if you're using slackpkg or slackpkg+, be very, very careful about just overwriting config files. (You should be prompted after an upgrade as to what you want to do.) I always ask for a prompt and keep the old file where it is. I'll go into that directory, and then compare the two files, adjusting my old one as necessary, while keeping my preferences intact.

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Old 08-02-2021, 08:33 AM   #19
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THANKS ! I think I have got my answer !

But just to make sure : does that mean that updates (kind of by definition) happen (just) in terms of packages ? (that was my understanding)
You're welcome. Yes.
 
Old 08-05-2021, 08:04 AM   #20
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If you're using slackpkg or pkgtools, you're updating via binary. You can also grab any slackbuild's build directory and build the package yourself. (Sometimes you need to do this...)

I'm not using Alien Bob's DAW, but I am using a few other audio-related packages of his: frescobaldi, obs-studio, and supercollider. Thing to be careful of is that if you update slackware-current, odds are good something will need to be recompiled against the newer libraries. For instance ImageMagick updates often break obs, which means I have to rebuild that one. Sometimes python updates can break frescobaldi and lilypond, but that hasn't happened in awhile. (Not since the switchover to python 3.) Jack seems to be OK most of the time.

If you update, and something breaks, try downloading the slackbuild (It's in the "build" directory) and recompile the thing. 99% of the time that fixes it.

Also, if you're using slackpkg or slackpkg+, be very, very careful about just overwriting config files. (You should be prompted after an upgrade as to what you want to do.) I always ask for a prompt and keep the old file where it is. I'll go into that directory, and then compare the two files, adjusting my old one as necessary, while keeping my preferences intact.
Thanks for very helpful and important information
 
  


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