CDE on Slackware 14.2

igadoter · 09-25-2019, 08:06 PM

@ponce - I didn't know. But it is really strange. I am guessing now but graphical applications in times when CDE was created go under X11 directory. Today it is just symbolic link.

Lockywolf · 09-26-2019, 07:04 AM

I think it should be possible to find those hard-linked places and replace them with constants from config.h

(And this may even be accepted by the cde devs.)

The only problem is that motif and cde guys nowadays seem to not care about the code any more. (Although Unicode works.)

So to maintain a working cde we'd effectively have to keep our own fork.

Lockywolf · 09-26-2019, 07:06 AM

So far most of my experience with motif was trying to add a scroll down button on dropdown menus that don't fit in the screen.

edorig · 09-26-2019, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paganini

CDE doesn't have a notifications area, but the main panel does have some system-tray type functionality. There's a clock, calendar, and trash by default. Windows minimize into individual icons on the desktop, rather than into any particular container (there's no "taskbar" equivalent or "iconification area"). I'm just starting to learn how it all works, but it seems pretty customizable. There's a whole .dt directory with configuration stuff that mostly seem to be plain text files. Since the clock and calendar behave like applets and not launchers, I suspect it would be no problem for someone who knows the motif API to create the functionality you're looking for (e.g., volume control applet).

You can have the equivalent of a system tray in CDE by using stalonetray. You need to embed this application in the Front Panel by creating the appropriate .fp file under .dt/types. This has worked for me with the NetworkManager Applet of Slackware 14.2. If you are interested, I can post the content of the .fp file.

paganini · 09-26-2019, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edorig

You can have the equivalent of a system tray in CDE by using stalonetray. You need to embed this application in the Front Panel by creating the appropriate .fp file under .dt/types. This has worked for me with the NetworkManager Applet of Slackware 14.2. If you are interested, I can post the content of the .fp file.

I would like to see it! Getting a network-manager applet would be cool.

edorig · 09-28-2019, 02:51 AM

After compiling and installing stalonetray you should add in .dt/types a file stalonetray.rc with content

Code:

 
CONTROL Systray
{
TYPE client
CONTAINER_NAME Top
CONTAINER_TYPE BOX
CLIENT_NAME stalonetray 
CLIENT_GEOMETRY 112x58
HELP_STRING "system tray" 
}

and another file Container1.fp in .dt/types/fp_dynamic/
with content

Code:

SUBPANEL        Systray
{
   CONTAINER_NAME       Systray
   TITLE        Extra Applications
}

After that, launch stalonetray followed by nm-applet and restart the desktop by logging out and in. You should see stalonetray embedded in the front panel, with nm-applet icon in it. You can then control wifi from there.

chrisretusn · 09-28-2019, 05:56 AM

Interesting thread that brings back memories. Administered both HP-UX and Solaris systems with CDE before I retired.

ChrisAbela · 10-04-2019, 01:41 AM

This is an undated photo of a SUN workstation 19 inch monitor on which I used to work. The machine used to run with CDE on Solaris.

ChrisAbela · 10-04-2019, 07:06 AM

I tried it on a VM.

I can't believe my eyes. IT STILL WORKS!!

Jeebizz · 10-04-2019, 11:31 AM

Slackbuilds of CDE on slackbuilds.org when?

Poprocks · 10-04-2019, 12:18 PM

I love me some CDE? But where are the screenshots??

tramtrist · 10-04-2019, 01:16 PM

Blast from the past .. wow...

dchmelik · 10-07-2019, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paganini

Hi dchmelik:

Two-finger scrolling worked out-of-the-box on my touchpad. I had to add a couple of xinput lines to my .dtprofile to get middle-button scrolling going. I'm on a thinkpad, and this stuff is pretty well documented at thinkwiki. For a mouse with an actual wheel I expect the procedure is not too different.

CDE doesn't have a notifications area, but the main panel does have some system-tray type functionality. There's a clock, calendar, and trash by default. Windows minimize into individual icons on the desktop, rather than into any particular container (there's no "taskbar" equivalent or "iconification area"). I'm just starting to learn how it all works, but it seems pretty customizable. There's a whole .dt directory with configuration stuff that mostly seem to be plain text files. Since the clock and calendar behave like applets and not launchers, I suspect it would be no problem for someone who knows the motif API to create the functionality you're looking for (e.g., volume control applet).

Well that sounds good, except not really sure about mouse wheels yet... What about multiple monitors, or also going back to a pure console outside of X? I had problems with these in the past...

I would also like to see a SlackBuild, hopefully with documentation for how to use a newer mouse.

Jeebizz · 10-08-2019, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dchmelik

I would also like to see a SlackBuild, hopefully with documentation for how to use a newer mouse.

This...

In before "write one yourself". - Only I wouldn't know where to begin

Jeebizz · 10-14-2019, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Okie

ah ha, i see what i did wrong, but now this sounds messy

(from the README.Slackware)

VARIOUS IMPORTANT NOTES - *MUST* READ

- The build process will install stuff into your /usr, /etc/ and /var,
spamming everywhere, so if you have already installed CDE, you
should remove its stuff prior to building this: this is because CDE
devs have hardcoded building/installing thingies and we can't do
anything about it.

not sure i want to go there...

While checking the sourceforge page, I found a ticket addressing this very issue, but no progress yet: https://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/tickets/60/