I suppose that's why I'm easily satisfied!

One day I'll check it out, I'm sure.

Having never used an iPhone I can't make a direct comparison, but a good friend is an attorney, with an interest in software, and he claims windows 10 is/was mickeysoft's attempt to catch up with what Apple has been doing to their customers (spyware/malware) for decades.
My own Android based smartphone, which is about two years old at this point, allows me to uninstall or disable just about everything.

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Sorry. I get frustrated.

Haha, no worries.

i think W10 was more likely a kneejerk response to Linux, because Microsoft had two decades of competition with Apple at that stage, and it's unlikely they were suddenly spooked by them in 2010 when they weren't spooked by them in 2000.

It's hard to know who's installing spyware, malware, whether systemd is part of the long-term aim to compromise Linux, and so on. With their native sandboxing, their official OS updates even five or six years after official iPhone release, among other security features, it certainly feels as though iOS and macOS are secure, and it certainly feels as though Apple has more interest in protecting its users than Google and Microsoft do. But I certainly could be wrong.

There's a great no-root firewall for Android that lets you lock down a whole slew of activities apps try to sneak past you -- Netguard. Takes a little bit of configuring but if I have to use an Android device I won't go without it.

I had an iPhone 8+ and it ran well enough. I gave it to my wife and I'm now running a One Plus 7T; it's pretty good. I got the One Plus a year ago. I'd say both platforms (iOS and Android) do a good job with keeping track of us. I recently tried uninstalling Google Chrome on the One Plus and it wasn't readily apparent how to do that.
Live and let live. Use whatever OS floats your boat and try to make it as secure as you can.

I'm surprised to hear the praise of Apple.

Sure, it's neat software, but you're tracked and locked in. You can't even get a wired pair of headphones these days. I also lurk on Slashdot.org, and routinely forward Apple exploits, security loopholes to my son who started on iOS and is an Apple nerd. These are not in the Apple stuff they feed to their devs. A search like "apple security bugs site:slashdot.org" lists them. If memory serves one or two MacOS bugs Apple knew about were carried through OS updates, something that would never happen in linux, and I haven't heard of that even in (spit!) windows.

I am by no means a software expert, but my son is, and some of those bugs I forwarded rang alarm bells.

Speaking of Windows 10, I've wondered since really long time how could be made a firewall on Linux where only certain applications are allowed to connect to Internet?

I talk about a way, as example: to allow Chromium or Firefox to go on Internet, but no other random console or graphical application. No one.

Easy to investigate Apple vulns because macOS and iOS are a sitting target. Linux and associated software is a fast-moving target ; is the incentive there for security researchers to conduct a deep audit of something that will have changed in six months? Is it possible to investigate all the bugs introduced to Linux by so many ill-considered innovations foisted upon us daily?

In this day and age a seamless handover from desktop to mobile when you're going out the door and mobile back to desktop when you return home is essential. Apple have that mastered. Neither Linux nor Windows nor Android comes close. Everything is scattered, hit and miss, a mish-mash of not-quite-compatible, not-quite-finished apps that sometimes do some of what you want, but never do it all.

Tomoyo, Apparmor, SELinux?

We have something like this on Slackware?

Tomoyo 2.xx was merged into the kernel, but you need userspace tools as well.

Documentation for the 2.xx branch, covering installation and usage of userspace tools, is here.

It's not for the faint-hearted but I don't think any application sandbox or firewall software is going to be straightforward. I've read that SELinux is probably much more secure, but also much more difficult to configure. I don't know about Apparmor.

Another point of reference -- today I installed the new iOS 14.5.1 on my six-year-old iPhone 6s. A security update.

How many Androids get security updates two years after release, never mind six?

I don't want to get into a big iOS vs Android debate, but having used Android since like 2010 (using custom ROMs for several years, but being mostly happy with stock Android for the past 5+ years other than needing root). I've been forced to use iOS for the last 3 years for work and I'm more convinced than ever that there's no ideal phone OS for everyone. Some people have perfectly valid reasons for preferring iOS (I don't use CalDAV or CardDAV so that's never been a factor in my decisions) where others have valid reasons for preferring Android.

I still hate using iOS. I don't like that I can't run my own browser (well, you kinda can, but you're still stuck with Safari's rendering engine). I don't like the stock keyboard and gboard on iOS is neutered compared to Android's. I don't like that I can't customize iMessage and that it will only repeat a messaging notification once after two minutes (my personal I have it repeat every 5 minutes over 2 hours). I don't like not having an app drawer, as I don't like everything on the home screen. I'm sure there's more that I'm not thinking of right now. I don't like that Apple refuses to support RCS, meaning that you have to use 3rd-party apps if you want RCS/iMessage features between Android and iOS (higher quality picture/video are the biggest for me, but typing alerts and read notifications are nice as well).

I'm sure there's others that can come up with a similar list of dislikes for Android. Point is that both OSes do things certain things for certain people very well, what is amazing for one person might be a detriment to others. We see the same with distros on Linux and even various desktop OSes. I'm just glad there's competition to keep these companies improving and to minimize chances for stagnation. Hopefully, eventually, protecting our private information will become a goal of these companies rather than a thing to exploit.

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