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Old 07-09-2004, 01:15 AM   #1
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Audigy LS sucks (anybody have success with it)?


I felt like i have been rip-off by Creative. I pledge not to buy their product again.

I got myself into trouble without checking support for Audigy LS. I was assuming, since the kernel support Audigy, Audigy LS should be included. When I got the card this morning, plug-in the machine I am building and wah lah, no sound. lsmod, no emu10k1 modules
being loaded, modprobe emu10k1, loaded alright, no sound still. Darn.

And the darn card I got is an "Asian Special Edition" Whatever that means, all the darn manual comes in all other language accept for English, how do expect me to read it???

Anyhow, would just like to know anybody successfully installed and use the BETA drivers from http://www.alsa-project.org/~james/alsa-driver

What is ultimately important for me are :

1. line-in must work flawlessly, the machine is for recording. (rip-off card)
2. line-out works without problem, I want to hear what is being recorded, playback.

That's all I need. If you guys have tried it, just let me know. I don't want to spend hours on it and get shit out of creative again.
 
Old 07-09-2004, 04:32 AM   #2
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Hmm looks like nobody is interested or tried it out. Looks like I got to be the speciment.
Will report my findings in a few hours time.
 
Old 07-09-2004, 05:37 AM   #3
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I followed the instructions here :
http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=AlsaCVS

It is not complete yet.

The first thing I tried was to play a VCD, sound was good.

The second thing I tried was Line-In, can't get no where. Audacity doesn't work well with it.

The main thing is, the Volume control (alsamixer, is very confusing, a lot of controls in there, some doesn't budge, some does with no effect ( I know I don't have full 5.1 speakers).

Will give it another go at recording using other software, however, I can't here any sound from the Line-In. Just to make sure I cover all grounds ( I can think off) I will still give it another go. If not, on-board sound that is.
 
Old 07-09-2004, 08:46 AM   #4
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I have the exact same sound card and I have never gotten it to work with any driver. I know there is 1 driver buy you have to pay for it. There is a trial of the driver and I installed it but I still didn't get sound. I have tried everything short of playing with the kernel to get it to work and it won't work. I hate sitting heere without sound.
 
Old 07-09-2004, 09:06 AM   #5
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I went to that website where u said you got sound from and installed it but I still don't have sound. maybe i have to configure something after I install it all? How do I go about doing that?
 
Old 07-09-2004, 05:18 PM   #6
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Hey man, u around? I really need help with this. If I can get sound for linux then I have no need for windows.
 
Old 07-10-2004, 09:31 AM   #7
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Quote:
Originally posted by cereal83
Hey man, u around? I really need help with this. If I can get sound for linux then I have no need for windows.
well, in a term window, what is the output of
Code:
lspci
??
 
Old 07-10-2004, 12:09 PM   #8
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-bash: lspci: command not found




It doesn't work
 
Old 07-10-2004, 08:13 PM   #9
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You need to be login as root to run lspci command.

As for getting sound with AudigyLS. Go to the website I pointed above, and follow exactly the instructions there.

http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=AlsaCVS

Just a note at the cvs part, you need to run the first cvs command on the console, and then hit enter when it ask you for password, then run the second cvs command. If you still can't get it I'll post it at my website.
 
Old 07-10-2004, 08:19 PM   #10
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Ok let me try to make it easier to understand and customise it for AudigyLS
I would suggest doing all this as root.


Create a new directory with nothing in it and move into it: -
Code:
1. mkdir /home/alsacvs
2. cd /home/alsacvs
Download the cvs of alsa: -
Code:
3. cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.alsa-project.org:/cvsroot/alsa login
4. ( Just press ENTER when asked for the password )
Code:
5. cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.alsa-project.org:/cvsroot/alsa co -P alsa-driver alsa-kernel alsa-lib alsa-utils
#Check that you have everything ok.
#type "ls" then ENTER.
#You should get this: -
#alsa-driver alsa-kernel alsa-lib alsa-utils (directories)

Start by compiling the kernel modules, so go into the alsa-driver directory: -
Code:
6. cd /home/alsacvs/alsa-driver
#Try to find out which card module you will need.
#./cvscompile --help
#and look at the --with-cards list and try and find yours.
#For me it is emu10k1 (for Audigy 2) and usb-audio (usb based sound card.)
Code:
7. ./cvscompile --with-cards=audigyls
That should have compiled your alsa-drivers. To install them: -
Code:
8. make install
Only if you are not using the devfs (device file system) remember to do "snddevices" now.
snddevices #if you are not running 2.6.* kernel

Now compile and install the rest of alsa.
Code:
9. cd ../alsa-lib
10. ./cvscompile
11. make install

12. cd ../alsa-utils
13. ./cvscompile
14. make install

15. reboot

After rebooting (or you can just /etc/rc.d/rc.alsa) you have to adjust the mixer volume,
It doesn't have a master volume, and it has a long long list of control, Go to almost the end, there are analog front/back/etc. those are the control for your Sound volume. Just play around with the alsamixer until you get sound. :) Then give yourself a pat at the back.

Last edited by carboncopy; 07-10-2004 at 08:30 PM.
 
Old 07-11-2004, 08:50 PM   #11
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Quote:
Originally posted by carboncopy
You need to be login as root to run lspci command.

As for getting sound with AudigyLS. Go to the website I pointed above, and follow exactly the instructions there.

http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=AlsaCVS

Just a note at the cvs part, you need to run the first cvs command on the console, and then hit enter when it ask you for password, then run the second cvs command. If you still can't get it I'll post it at my website.
K thanks for the long explanation down there. I am going to try it out and let you know how it worked out. Thanks
 
Old 07-11-2004, 09:14 PM   #12
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Ok I did exactly what you said up there but when I reboot and I do /etc/rc.d/rc.alsa Nothing happens. If I do alsamixer, it says no soundcard detected. I don't know how to change the sound as you said in the last paragraph because I don't see anywhere to change settings.

Could you help me a bit more please?
 
Old 07-11-2004, 09:17 PM   #13
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1 more thing I did LSPCI and this is the output

Quote:
root@localhost:/home/pinter# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 01)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE Host-to-AGP Bridge (rev 01)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB UHCI #1 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB UHCI #2 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB UHCI #3 (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA/CA/DB/EB/ER Hub interface to PCI Bridge (rev 81)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) LPC Bridge (rev 01)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) Ultra ATA 100 Storage Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBM (ICH4) SMBus Controller (rev 01)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200] (rev 01)
01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200] (Secondary) (rev 01)
02:00.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Lucent Microelectronics FW323 (rev 05)
02:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs: Unknown device 0007
02:01.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs: Unknown device 7005
02:03.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
 
Old 07-12-2004, 07:50 AM   #14
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Can you post your lsmod as well?
Urr, before you run the rc.alsa script, you have to run alsaconf.

alsamixer DOES not look for your sound-card and load the modules,
You got to alsaconf to get it detected and alsaconf will add the necessary line into /etc/modules.conf

Last edited by carboncopy; 07-12-2004 at 07:51 AM.
 
Old 07-12-2004, 05:05 PM   #15
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Quote:
root@localhost:/home/pinter# lsmod
Module Size Used by Not tainted
snd-mixer-oss 12504 0 (unused)
snd 30852 0 (autoclean) [snd-mixer-oss]
soundcore 3396 0 (autoclean) [snd]
pcmcia_core 39972 0
ntfs 51424 1 (autoclean)
ide-scsi 9328 0
8139too 14376 1
mii 2272 0 [8139too]
crc32 2880 0 [8139too]
agpgart 43940 0 (unused)
^^^

thats lsmod

I ran alsaconf and it detected the ls driver and then it asked if I wanted to configure it. I said yes and then it said it was ready to use. Then I did /etc/rc.d/rc.alsa and got this

Quote:
root@localhost:/etc/rc.d# /etc/rc.d/rc.alsa
ALSA warning: No mixer settings found in /etc/asound.state.
Sound may be muted. Use 'alsamixer' to unmute your sound card,
and then 'alsactl store' to save the default ALSA mixer settings
to be loaded at boot.
Loading OSS compatibility modules for ALSA.
/lib/modules/2.4.26/kernel/sound/acore/oss/snd-mixer-oss.o: couldn't find the kernel version the module was compiled for
/lib/modules/2.4.26/kernel/sound/acore/oss/snd-mixer-oss.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.26/kernel/sound/acore/oss/snd-mixer-oss.o failed
/lib/modules/2.4.26/kernel/sound/acore/oss/snd-mixer-oss.o: couldn't find the kernel version the module was compiled for
/lib/modules/2.4.26/kernel/sound/acore/oss/snd-mixer-oss.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.26/kernel/sound/acore/oss/snd-mixer-oss.o failed
/lib/modules/2.4.26/kernel/sound/acore/oss/snd-mixer-oss.o: insmod snd-pcm-oss failed
/lib/modules/2.4.26/kernel/sound/acore/oss/snd-mixer-oss.o: couldn't find the kernel version the module was compiled for
/lib/modules/2.4.26/kernel/sound/acore/oss/snd-mixer-oss.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.26/kernel/sound/acore/oss/snd-mixer-oss.o failed
so I ran alsamixer and got this

Quote:
root@localhost:/etc/rc.d# alsamixer

alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
what other mixer could I use to unmute the soundcard and play with the sounds?

any other help?

Please

thanks
 
  


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