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enine 09-10-2009 09:32 PM

Are there any kde 4.3 packages for 13
 
Or do I need to download all the source and compile

vinegaroon 09-10-2009 10:53 PM

http://cardinal.lizella.net/~vbatts/...ackages/4.3.1/
x86_64 packages.
Source/SlackBuilds are there.

gbowden 09-11-2009 05:13 AM

Does anyone know of any 32 bit packages for KDE 4.3.1?

Curingaa 09-11-2009 07:52 AM

Does anyone know of any 32 bit packages for KDE 4.3.1? [2]

colucix 09-11-2009 08:13 AM

Take a look at this thread: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...e-13.0-751453/

Woodsman 09-11-2009 12:31 PM

I too would like to see 4.3.x packages appear in Current. I'm using 13.0 32-bit.

I'm not really doing a lot with KDE 4 other than using as a basic desktop for an HTPC. As a basic desktop things should be rock steady and this is not the case. Despite this nominal use, I have found 4.2.3 buggy and cantankerous. Reading the forum here indicates I'm not the only one who has found 4.2.3 buggy.

Browsing the 4.3.x change logs motivates me to update. I realize there are some dependency changes the devs need to consider, but I'm tapping my foot waiting for packages to appear in Current.

I'm using KDE 4 with my HTPC and will continue as such. I'm not opening the old arguments here about the merits of KDE 4. I only want a less buggy version. Not to mention that a few apps have been added to 4.3, such as Kdenlive. There is another thread addressing the issue of video editing and making home-brew DVDs. Folks using KDE want a KDE tool, not a GTK tool (DeVeDe).

I realize the dev crew needs and wants a rest period. I'm just hoping 4.3.1 packages appear soon in Current. :)

mattydee 09-11-2009 01:08 PM

I'm using the official build scripts for 4.2 and adjusting them to compile 4.3.1.

I noticed that in the build order there is:
kdebase-workspace
kdebase
kdebase-workspace

Does anyone know why is kdebase-workspace being built twice?

disturbed1 09-11-2009 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woodsman (Post 3679043)
I too would like to see 4.3.x packages appear in Current. I'm using 13.0 32-bit.

I'm not really doing a lot with KDE 4 other than using as a basic desktop for an HTPC. As a basic desktop things should be rock steady and this is not the case. Despite this nominal use, I have found 4.2.3 buggy and cantankerous. Reading the forum here indicates I'm not the only one who has found 4.2.3 buggy.

Browsing the 4.3.x change logs motivates me to update. I realize there are some dependency changes the devs need to consider, but I'm tapping my foot waiting for packages to appear in Current.

I'm using KDE 4 with my HTPC and will continue as such. I'm not opening the old arguments here about the merits of KDE 4. I only want a less buggy version. Not to mention that a few apps have been added to 4.3, such as Kdenlive. There is another thread addressing the issue of video editing and making home-brew DVDs. Folks using KDE want a KDE tool, not a GTK tool (DeVeDe).

I realize the dev crew needs and wants a rest period. I'm just hoping 4.3.1 packages appear soon in Current. :)

4.2.3 is a typo for 4.2.4 right :)

What's stopping you from running Kdenlive with KDE 4.2.4? I'm running the latest svn releases here.

DeVeDe is nothing compared to Kdenlive. DeVeDe is a one-click-encoder. Kdenlive is a full blown NLE. There's a slew of QT based one-click-encoders and DVD Authoring applications. KMedia Factory is one that pops into my head without searching kde-apps.org or freshmeat.net.

Can't say I have any issues with KDE 4.2.4 and stability.
Code:

uptime
 14:25:42 up 26 days,  7:53, 10 users,  load average: 2.27, 2.22, 2.40

KDE has yet to crash on me in 26 days - that's pretty darn good in my book :)

mlangdn 09-11-2009 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattydee (Post 3679091)
I'm using the official build scripts for 4.2 and adjusting them to compile 4.3.1.

I noticed that in the build order there is:
kdebase-workspace
kdebase
kdebase-workspace

Does anyone know why is kdebase-workspace being built twice?

I think there is a comment in the build script on why its done twice.

mattydee 09-11-2009 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlangdn (Post 3679461)
I think there is a comment in the build script on why its done twice.

Oops, I missed that thanks.

Edit: Still not sure why its built twice though. All it says is "for good measure".

mlangdn 09-12-2009 08:50 AM

I just downloaded and upgraded/install new all the 4.3.1 pkgs from the above link. I did this on a test partition that is not fully up to date. Its not missing much, but so far, I have had no problems. K3b was not rebuilt in these packages, but it don't function very well anyway.

Nepomukmuk came up and indexed for less than a minute and then fell silent. I have no clue wtf akonadi is, so I don't know if it functions anyway. :)

So far, so good!

mattydee 09-12-2009 12:04 PM

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So far so good.

I downloaded libknotify from the link above, the build scripts from slackware.com and the source packs from kde.org.

Curingaa 09-13-2009 10:48 PM

I got 4.3.1 running here. I've tried download bluewhite64 kde's packages and deps, failed; tried those packages links: failed; then i download Volkerding's scripts of slackware64-13.0/source/kde and worked! Just have to change version in KDE.options script and remove all patches that Slackbuilds applies... I got bunches of warnings but im running 4.3.1 now... Any specific help PVT me...

foodown 09-17-2009 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vinegaroon (Post 3678177)
http://cardinal.lizella.net/~vbatts/...ackages/4.3.1/
x86_64 packages.
Source/SlackBuilds are there.

I d/led these packages and they work well.

Martinezio 09-21-2009 02:16 AM

Hi, I'm also trying currently these packages, and seems to work good, but not all features are complete, I think.
KDE wasn't able to install new icon themes, and other features from kdelook.org while using built-in dialogs.
Right after install, there was complete lack of icons on desktop, sidebars and in menus. I was able to restore those icons using Control Center, and now it's look good, but I was confused if the system is crashing, or just hang up...

mlangdn 09-21-2009 07:20 AM

Fire up Konqueror and let me know if it works for you.

Martinezio 09-21-2009 07:31 AM

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Yes, it works for me. First run took quite long time, but then it works fine.
Only one error messages showed in console:
Quote:

"/usr/bin/konqueror(1447)" Error in thread 140169098757984 : "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply - Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken."

mlangdn 09-21-2009 07:40 AM

I got that far with Konqueror. I should have asked you to navigate to /home/yourname.

Martinezio 09-21-2009 07:50 AM

Well, the screen was taken with second run (see on second plan, as I was currently writing my post ;)). With the first one I do some "clicking around" and seems to work great. The error message was after that, I had run konqueror with it's starting page for the first time, and clicked "Home" icon. Konqueror looks for a while like he hang up, then shown those error message in console, and then it started work good. I don't know, how he behaves after reboot. I prefer dolphin, so this is not interesting for me ;)

mlangdn 09-21-2009 08:11 AM

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Here is a screen shot of the error I get:

mlangdn 09-21-2009 08:15 AM

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Here is what /home/michael looks like:

Martinezio 09-21-2009 09:42 AM

:o OMG, what the hell is this? CPU scheme? ;)

For me, all works good. Even configuration dialogs are shown proper.
Undefined symbol is combined with kernel - You need to recompile Your kernel. Check, if all necessary modules You've enabled.

mlangdn 09-21-2009 10:13 AM

Well, its not a kernel module problem. I just rebooted to the test partition using the stock kernel - and the problem is still there. I may try to figure this out a bit later. I really can't stand not knowing, but google is a bit lost as well.

Martinezio 09-22-2009 03:12 AM

Hmm... This error message bring the information about not having some functionality from PyKDE libraries.

See this article:
http://api.kde.org/pykde-4.2-api/sop...eralValue.html

Try to reinstall PyKDE from sources by hand and see the result.
Good luck :)

Martinezio 09-22-2009 03:56 AM

Hmm... Looks, like the KDE 4.3.1 is not so stable, as I think... Plasma is freezing on my desktop, so I don't have access to any system menus :/ And I don't know why. Just stops refreshing and doesn't respond for any clicks and keys. CTRL+ALT+BKSPC doesn't work either, but compiz features are still alive :o I can switch to another app (but cannot run with KDE interface any new app, of course), move window to another position, I have access to my desktop... Weird...

mlangdn 09-22-2009 09:09 AM

I removed all the 4.3.1 kde-related pkgs. I then installed all of them again. That didn't work. I will now officially give up. I still think that KDE-4x is the way to go, and there was much improved functionality in Dolphin. That said, I can't stand something not working properly on my system, even if I don't use it.

Time to blow away the test partition and start over. :)

Martinezio 09-22-2009 09:22 AM

Did You reinstall PyKDE, as I mentioned?

Your standing about non-working things is mine too ;) Currenty, i'm figthing with my webcam (Quickam Messanger - not Messenger, sic). I'm on stage of recompiling GTK, SDL, Pango and glib-2 ;) I don't know whats the problem - driver (my webcam is detected by gspca_zc3xx kernel driver) is working, because I have some data from webcam retrieved, but it looks like micro matrix :o

mlangdn 09-22-2009 09:24 AM

Yep.

Martinezio 09-22-2009 09:30 AM

Hmm... So, You may try to recompile whole KDE system from scratch... Of course, If You are desperate to use KDE 4.3 ;)

mlangdn 09-22-2009 09:38 AM

Not desperate - I just get really ticked when something don't work. Now, recompiling KDE will be a pile of work, with a bunch of modifying slackbuilds going on. But then again, I need the practice. It'll probably take me a week to figure this out.

gbowden 09-29-2009 04:03 AM

32 bit packages
 
32 Bit packages are now available at:

http://cardinal.lizella.net/~vbatts/...ges/4.3.1/x86/

Regards,

Lufbery 09-29-2009 07:15 AM

So who is vbatts? He or she seems to be putting some good stuff out for public consumption.

Regards,

mlangdn 09-29-2009 08:09 AM

I see there are some additions in the x86_64 folder. Maybe its time to give these packages another spin. I had a few problems when I first tried them. They were not show stoppers, but did create some problems between dolphin and konqueror.

tramni1980 09-29-2009 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gbowden (Post 3700342)
32 Bit packages are now available at:

http://cardinal.lizella.net/~vbatts/...ges/4.3.1/x86/

Regards,

Maybe there should be some README or so with instructions on how to use the packages?

Alien Bob 09-29-2009 08:36 AM

Like,
Code:

upgradepkg --install-new *.t?z
perhaps?

Eric

tramni1980 09-29-2009 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alien Bob (Post 3700562)
Like,
Code:

upgradepkg --install-new *.t?z
perhaps?

Eric

I do think it could go without the above irony. Anyway, some packages should be removed from the stock slackware installation before upgradepkg --install-new *.t?z

Alien Bob 09-29-2009 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tramni1980 (Post 3700566)
I do think it could go without the above irony. Anyway, some packages should be removed from the stock slackware installation before upgradepkg --install-new *.t?z

It was written without irony in mind. Also, why do you think some packages would need to be removed?

Eric

~sHyLoCk~ 09-29-2009 10:12 AM

Hi. Can anyone tell me when kde4.3.1 packages will move to -current, then will slackpkg ask me to redownload those and remove these packages?

tramni1980 09-29-2009 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alien Bob (Post 3700624)
Also, why do you think some packages would need to be removed?

Eric

Because maybe two versions of KDE could not be present concurrently on the same system, could they? I think it should be necessary to first remove KDE-4.2 and then install the packages from KDE-4.3.

~sHyLoCk~ 09-29-2009 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tramni1980 (Post 3700674)
Because maybe two versions of KDE could not be present concurrently on the same system, could they? I think it should be necessary to first remove KDE-4.2 and then install the packages from KDE-4.3.

But you are using upgradepkg

tramni1980 09-29-2009 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~sHyLoCk~ (Post 3700679)
But you are using upgradepkg

And what happens if there is in KDE-4.2 some package that is no longer present in KDE-4.3?

Alien Bob 09-29-2009 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tramni1980 (Post 3700681)
And what happens if there is in KDE-4.2 some package that is no longer present in KDE-4.3?

In that case there would have been a README to explain in what order to remove and install packages... you are trying very hard to make things more difficult than needed - I am unsubscribing from this thread. Good luck.

Eric

brianL 09-29-2009 02:12 PM

Well, I've upgraded to KDE4.3, using those packages. And nothing's exploded, melted, or otherwise gone wrong...so far.

foodown 09-29-2009 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martinezio (Post 3691291)
Hi, I'm also trying currently these packages, and seems to work good, but not all features are complete, I think.
KDE wasn't able to install new icon themes, and other features from kdelook.org while using built-in dialogs.
Right after install, there was complete lack of icons on desktop, sidebars and in menus. I was able to restore those icons using Control Center, and now it's look good, but I was confused if the system is crashing, or just hang up...

It's important to remember with KDE 4.x that, whenever you upgrade it, you have to delete your old preferences and start from scratch! (rm -r ~/.kde) I have experimented with using preferences from, for example, 4.2 in 4.3, and I see lots of crashes and erratic behavior as described in this post and others. If I start with fresh prefs, I see none of it.

bgeddy 09-29-2009 07:07 PM

Wow there are some useful new package posts today ! I'm impressed.
Quote:

Well, I've upgraded to KDE4.3, using those packages. And nothing's exploded, melted, or otherwise gone wrong...so far.
Hey brianL - please let us all know if anything goes wrong with the new version of KDE provided by vbatts ( if you don't mind being the beta tester ;)).

brianL 09-29-2009 07:15 PM

Everything appears to be working OK so far. No problems with menus, icons, whatever. Some new wallpapers. No nagging from Nepomuk Strigi. Fingers, eyes, and legs crossed - it looks like a good un.

bgeddy 09-29-2009 07:21 PM

Quote:

Everything appears to be working OK so far. No problems with menus, icons, whatever. Some new wallpapers. No nagging from Nepomuk Strigi. Fingers, eyes, and legs crossed - it looks like a good un.
Thanks for the information brianL. Which packages have you tried ? Have you upgraded all KDE 4.2.4 with the supplied 4.3.1 or are you running both versions alongside ? (Actually I'm not even sure if the second option is possible - I'll have to look into this stuff a bit more).

brianL 09-29-2009 07:24 PM

Complete upgrade, using all vbatts packages, running as Eric suggested:
Code:

upgradepkg --install-new *.t?z
Downloaded the lot into ~/temp first, of course.

~sHyLoCk~ 09-29-2009 08:48 PM

Upgraded here as well, so far so good.
Also it's better to upgrade whilst in console, make sure you are not in KDE.
And backup your older settings

Code:

mv ~/.kde kde

mlangdn 09-29-2009 11:49 PM

Well, I'm going to revisit this again in a few minutes. I'm going to drop to init 3, save the old ~/.kde, and upgrade, install new again for these packages. Redoing the config won't be that hard.


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