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vbatts 10-23-2009 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sahko (Post 3729279)
Yes its included. Its the source/kde/kdelibs/klocale.mutex.diff.gz file.
The three patches combined in one.

thanks to alienBOB for getting a hold of that patch and getting in the push 4.3.2 packages for -current.

slackd 10-23-2009 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slax-Dude (Post 3729872)
Please read the very first phrase in my post ;)

i know, i read your post. you'll some of the packages from current for kde to work properly. i kept that in mind when i replied.

Slax-Dude 10-23-2009 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slackd (Post 3729880)
you'll some of the packages from current for kde to work properly. i kept that in mind when i replied.

It is my understanding from reading this thread, although I could be wrong, that the KDE 4.3.1 packages would work on slackware 13.0 and that only KDE 4.3.2 would require an upgrade to slackware-current.
Is this correct?

MQMan 10-23-2009 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slax-Dude (Post 3729897)
It is my understanding from reading this thread, although I could be wrong, that the KDE 4.3.1 packages would work on slackware 13.0 and that only KDE 4.3.2 would require an upgrade to slackware-current.
Is this correct?

That's my understanding to. I'm currently running 4.3.1 on a "stock" 13.0.

Cheers.

~sHyLoCk~ 10-23-2009 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slax-Dude (Post 3729897)
It is my understanding from reading this thread, although I could be wrong, that the KDE 4.3.1 packages would work on slackware 13.0 and that only KDE 4.3.2 would require an upgrade to slackware-current.
Is this correct?

A few of -current packages as mentioned earlier in this thread are essential for making 4.3.1 work.

Slax-Dude 10-23-2009 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MQMan (Post 3729926)
That's my understanding to. I'm currently running 4.3.1 on a "stock" 13.0.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~sHyLoCk~ (Post 3729927)
A few of -current packages as mentioned earlier in this thread are essential for making 4.3.1 work.

So... which is it? :)

slackd 10-23-2009 10:36 AM

KDE 4.3.1 --> Works with Slackware Stable (Default)
KDE 4.3.2 --> Needs Current, as its compiled against them.

That's it.

~sHyLoCk~ 10-23-2009 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slax-Dude (Post 3729930)
So... which is it? :)

Make it 4.3.2, typo. :redface:
I didn't notice you just want to use 4.3.1 packages and assumed you would want to upgrade to 4.3.2 instead, hence I suggested -current upgrade. My mistake.

Slax-Dude 10-23-2009 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slackd (Post 3729936)
KDE 4.3.1 --> Works with Slackware Stable (Default)
KDE 4.3.2 --> Needs Current, as its compiled against them.

That's it.

Cool! Glad that's cleared up :)

So... back to my original question: since I don't install "all" of KDE 4.2.4 in my slackware 13.0 machine, should I use
Code:

upgradepkg --install-new *.t?z
or
Code:

upgradepkg *.t?z
?[/QUOTE]

slackd 10-23-2009 10:54 AM

use this command as i said earlier:

Code:

upgradepkg --reinstall --install-new *t?z

Slax-Dude 10-23-2009 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slackd (Post 3729971)
use this command as i said earlier:

Code:

upgradepkg --reinstall --install-new *t?z

This will install packages that I don't have now in my working KDE 4.2.4
Any reason for this? Are there any packages needed by KDE 4.3.1 that were not needed in 4.2.4?

Sorry for nagging, but I'm not the "full install" type of user.
It makes no sense to me to install things I'll never use.

bgeddy 10-23-2009 11:14 AM

The scenario the posters are discussing may be safe at the moment but just to warn anyone browsing this thread - mixing Slackware -current packages with the stable release is not recommended and may cause serious problems. You have been warned ;)

MQMan 10-23-2009 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slax-Dude (Post 3729984)
This will install packages that I don't have now in my working KDE 4.2.4
Any reason for this? Are there any packages needed by KDE 4.3.1 that were not needed in 4.2.4?

Sorry for nagging, but I'm not the "full install" type of user.
It makes no sense to me to install things I'll never use.

Yes, there are some "new" packages, that didn't exist on 4.2.4.

It's easy enough to compare the list of what you have installed, what comes with 13.0, and what's in the new set. Then you can decide which of the "new" packages you want to install.

I ended up replacing what I had currently installed, plus ALL the "new" ones.

Cheers.

ryerke 10-24-2009 12:49 PM

I found that the 4.3.2 is enough of an improvement that it is worth the extra effort to install the necessary packages from -current. I am not (hereto-far) committed to staying with -current but I found that upgrading a few packages from the early part of the changelog and additionally the 4.3.2 packages from the announcement made for a significantly better system. Particularly KMail and Konqueror that were periodically crashing with 4.3.1. Aside from a few annoyances, 4.3.1 did run well on -stable.

enine 10-24-2009 02:44 PM

I downloaded everything from this tread http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...urrent-763844/ and kde dies so I had to go back to the vbatts packages.

slackd 10-24-2009 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enine (Post 3731153)
I downloaded everything from this tread http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...urrent-763844/ and kde dies so I had to go back to the vbatts packages.

i did update from vbatts packages to -current. i did not face any problems. What problems did u face?.

enine 10-24-2009 09:05 PM

thats what I did too. it would draw the disk icon of the kde startup and then exit back with a couple screefulls of error messages.

slackd 10-24-2009 09:08 PM

well, could you share, what those error messages were?

and did u update only the <kde> or all the packages from current?

ryerke 10-24-2009 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enine (Post 3731443)
thats what I did too. it would draw the disk icon of the kde startup and then exit back with a couple screefulls of error messages.

I had that problem with 4.3.2 and it turned out that I had not successfully upgraded qt because the package did not download fully. Did you install all of the packages listed here?

enine 10-25-2009 07:10 AM

Yes, I downloaded everything on that list. I must have missed something because I went back and did it with slackpkg and it worked fine. The only issue now is finding where slackpkg stores the packages so I can save them.

Drakeo 10-25-2009 09:00 AM

all you have to do is edit your /etc/slackpkg/mirrors to this.
Quote:

"http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-current/"
and for 64 bit
Quote:

"http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware64-current/"
now comment your old one. because you can only have one mirror.
Quote:

in runlevel 3 login as root and do a slackpkg update then
slackpkg upgrade-all then you have to do a slackpkg install-new.
if this does not work do a slackpkg clean-system then do as before.

mlangdn 10-25-2009 10:02 PM

I just upgraded to current - except the kernel and kde packages, since I use a custom kernel. Then installed all the _vb pkgs since I already had them downloaded. Everything seems fine except for hp-toolbox. Something between sip and qt broke it. I don't really care since I never used the toolbox anyway. I was running 4.3.1, and I just had to try 4.3.2. :)

enine 10-26-2009 12:42 PM

You may want to get the kde packages from current rather then the vb packages. From reading in the other thread there are a few bugfixes added into the -current ones.

vbatts 10-26-2009 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enine (Post 3733128)
You may want to get the kde packages from current rather then the vb packages. From reading in the other thread there are a few bugfixes added into the -current ones.

please do prefer packages from the official tree, rather than the unofficial builds like i had published. ;)

take care,

dimm0k 10-26-2009 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slackd (Post 3720369)
Here are the current packages, update these. most important one has been **'ed.

samba-3.4.2-x86_64-1.txz
php-5.2.11-x86_64-1.txz
redland-1.0.9-x86_64-2.txz
mysql-5.1.39-x86_64-1.txz
perl-5.10.1-x86_64-1.txz
** qt-4.5_0bd8418-x86_64-1.txz **
soprano-2.3.1-x86_64-1.txz
taglib-1.6-x86_64-1.txz
taglib-extras-1.0.1-x86_64-1.txz
amarok-2.2.0-x86_64-1.txz
openssh-5.3p1-x86_64-1.txz:

Are you saying I can upgradepkg these -current packages on a 13.0 system?

mlangdn 10-26-2009 09:29 PM

Well - I have a problem with the new 4.3.2 packages.
First - I can't change the theme. The Apply button stays grayed-out.
Second - The Login Manager won't load for me to automatically login my user.

Not showstoppers because everything else seems to work fine.

The second one fixed itself. Probably just me.

vbatts 10-26-2009 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlangdn (Post 3733579)
Well - I have a problem with the new 4.3.2 packages.
First - I can't change the theme. The Apply button stays grayed-out.
Second - The Login Manager won't load for me to automatically login my user.

Not showstoppers because everything else seems to work fine.

The second one fixed itself. Probably just me.

this has been a request to the kde team, regarding the theme, that they will be putting into the system settings panel as a kcm module. but you can change your them by right-clicking on the desktop, and choosing "desktop settings"
it's pretty discrete, but its there.

Take care,

vb

mlangdn 10-26-2009 09:41 PM

Thanks vbatts! That did the trick in a hurry. :)

Drakeo 10-26-2009 10:00 PM

You know vbatts the current slackware kde 4.3.2 build uses a new version of PYQT. this was the major fix to the QT module. any way
I really like the 4,3.2 is feels very light and fast. I find it much more fun to use then the 4.2.2 hang in there. Keep up the great work.

enine 11-03-2009 04:00 PM

4.3.3 is out from kde today, I got the e-mail

cwizardone 11-03-2009 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enine (Post 3743192)
4.3.3 is out from kde today, I got the e-mail

From looking at the change log file it wouldn't appear to be enough changes, and/or significant enough changes, to warrant updating to 4.3.3, unless, of course, there is a specific change that could be of benefit to an individual user.
Regardless, since switching to Xfce I've been using it about 90% of the time and don't see the need to use KDE anymore.

dugan 01-31-2010 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vbatts (Post 3712698)
the 4.3.2 packages are uploaded now for i686 and x86_64 to http://cardinal.lizella.net/~vbatts/kde/kde4-packages/ and rsync://cardinal.lizella.net/vbatts/kde4-packages/

there's a bit of a README as well ;)

How do you download the packages with rsync?

Code:

rsync rsync://cardinal.lizella.net/vbatts/kde4-packages/4.3.1/x86_64
gives me:

Quote:

@ERROR: Unknown module '~vbatts

enine 01-31-2010 02:12 PM

I would imagine he deleted those since they went into -current.

dolphin77 01-31-2010 02:15 PM

Why would you need 4.3.x?

Check this out: http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/kde-...ation-4-4-rc2/

It is awesome!!!. Alien Bob did excellent job. I checked 4.4-rc1 from Alien Bob as well.... There is no way anyone can bring me back to 4.2 or even 4.3.

Check also Eric's blog http://alien.slackbook.org/blog. It has a lot of interesting texts about kde 4 and many many more.

dugan 01-31-2010 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dolphin77 (Post 3847414)
Why would you need 4.3.x?

Because I don't want to upgrade to current.

He did not delete 4.3.1, and I know how to get them with lftp. I was asking for help with rsync.

dolphin77 01-31-2010 02:26 PM

Ok understood.

rsync -avr cardinal.lizella.net::vbatts/kde4-packages/4.3.2/ .
will download 4.3.2 to current directory.
Or choose another version. Available versions are:
Code:

vladimir@darkstar:~$ rsync cardinal.lizella.net::vbatts/kde4-packages/
drwxr-xr-x          73 2009/12/06 17:52:54 .
-rw-r--r--        129 2009/10/07 07:55:24 README.html
drwxr-xr-x        4096 2009/09/01 00:20:38 4.3.0
drwxr-xr-x          42 2009/09/24 18:10:58 4.3.1
drwxr-xr-x          73 2009/10/09 00:04:30 4.3.2
drwxr-xr-x          50 2009/12/07 07:05:55 4.3.80

PS thank you for your font research. I am using it and do not know, how I could work without it. My eyes would say thank you.

dugan 01-31-2010 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dolphin77 (Post 3847425)
rsync -avr cardinal.lizella.net::vbatts/kde4-packages/4.3.80/ .

Thanks very much.

rsync is one of those program for which rtfm just didn't work for me.

aszabo 02-01-2010 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dolphin77 (Post 3847414)
Why would you need 4.3.x?

Check this out: http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/kde-...ation-4-4-rc2/

It is awesome!!!. Alien Bob did excellent job. I checked 4.4-rc1 from Alien Bob as well.... There is no way anyone can bring me back to 4.2 or even 4.3.

Check also Eric's blog http://alien.slackbook.org/blog. It has a lot of interesting texts about kde 4 and many many more.

Hi,

I tried it out, it is really good, but I have some problems with my wireless connection. Till now I used KDE4.3.4 and there was no problem with it, now I can set it only manuall. What has happend? I don't understand, the machine is the same.
And since it is a pre version, there are some crashes, but they are not so disturbing. The problem with the wireless tweaks me.

And a request to Alien: please make the kdei-s also.

dolphin77 02-02-2010 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aszabo (Post 3848869)
Hi,

I tried it out, it is really good, but I have some problems with my wireless connection. Till now I used KDE4.3.4 and there was no problem with it, now I can set it only manuall. What has happend? I don't understand, the machine is the same.
And since it is a pre version, there are some crashes, but they are not so disturbing. The problem with the wireless tweaks me.

And a request to Alien: please make the kdei-s also.

What it has to do with wireless? just use wicd from extra. It is not related to KDE anyway.

kdei's are there. in a separate directory kdei.

aszabo 02-02-2010 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dolphin77 (Post 3849201)
What it has to do with wireless? just use wicd from extra. It is not related to KDE anyway.

kdei's are there. in a separate directory kdei.

I use x86 and not x86_64 and there is no kdei directory.
It has to do with wireless, because I use the wicd from extra, and it does not work. And as I said, till now I used current with kde4.3.4 and there was no problem with my wifi.

Alien Bob 02-02-2010 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aszabo (Post 3849304)
I use x86 and not x86_64 and there is no kdei directory.

I posted this in my blog when I made the 32-bit packages available:

Slackware:
  • Don’t forget to also install the updated or new dependencies! These “deps” packages can be found in the “x86/deps” directory.
  • The KDE 4.4.rc2 packages themselves can be found in “x86/kde“
  • If you need a language pack, you can grab one from the 64-bit package tree.

Eric

aszabo 02-02-2010 09:59 AM

OK, thank you, I thought that they were x86_64 by mistake.
Thanks again.


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