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Old 10-20-2021, 12:17 AM   #31
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In my humble opinion 15 would be a lovely Christmas present.
When I first installed Slackware it was over Christmas holidays a few years back. 15.0 being released around the same time of year would be neat.
 
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Old 10-25-2021, 02:23 PM   #32
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Has there been an announcement by Mr. Volkerding about selling flash-drives configured to install Slackware 15.0?

Does anyone remember how much the install-DVDs used to be?
 
Old 10-25-2021, 02:27 PM   #33
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I don't know about the flash drives, but AFAIK making an iso of --Current (32-bit or 64-bit), and even including the source tree, it is still barely a 4GB if that size of an iso.
 
Old 10-25-2021, 02:28 PM   #34
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Has there been an announcement by Mr. Volkerding about selling flash-drives configured to install Slackware 15.0?

Does anyone remember how much the install-DVDs used to be?
IF my memory does not fails, there was sets starting with $35 (one architecture) and ending with $60 (both 32bit and 64bit installation kits).

BUT, I seen no official announcement about selling flash-drives.

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Old 10-25-2021, 02:35 PM   #35
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Has there been an announcement by Mr. Volkerding about selling flash-drives configured to install Slackware 15.0?

Does anyone remember how much the install-DVDs used to be?


Not before the keynote
 
Old 10-25-2021, 11:15 PM   #36
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Not before the keynote
SlackCon 2021?
 
Old 10-26-2021, 09:21 PM   #37
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Sure do:

Find the last stable release on a mirror.

https://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/s.../ANNOUNCE.14_2

Scroll to find price of DVD
 
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Old 10-26-2021, 09:41 PM   #38
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Will 15.0 come on physical media (other than USB) ? I kinda want a Slackware bluray
 
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Old 10-27-2021, 01:00 PM   #39
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Will 15.0 come on physical media (other than USB) ? I kinda want a Slackware bluray
It might come in some storage media not yet invented!
 
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Old 10-27-2021, 01:34 PM   #40
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Thank you, Gordie. Your reply lead me to finding the answer to my question is also here http://www.slackware.com/announce/14.2.php

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The Slackware 14.2 x86 6 CD-ROM set is $49.95 plus shipping, or choose the Slackware 14.2 x86/x86_64 dual-sided DVD (also $49.95 plus shipping).
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[...] We make releases to the net at the same time as disc production begins, so there is a lag between the online release and the shipping of media. But, even if you download now you can still buy the official media later. You'll feel good, be helping the project, and have a great decorative item perfect for any computer room shelf. :-)

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Old 10-27-2021, 02:12 PM   #41
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It might come in some storage media not yet invented!
Eh fine, but considering blurays have been out for a while, I still haven't really seen said media for Slackware - maybe due to pricing in getting a bluray disc stamped vs CD/DVD who knows. I rather like optical media still, I was just opining whether or not there will be a bluray version, or will it solely be CD and DVD-ROM only.
 
Old 10-27-2021, 03:51 PM   #42
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I rather like optical media still, I was just opining whether or not there will be a bluray version, or will it solely be CD and DVD-ROM only.
I also like optical media and I regularly burn Slackware DVDs. I think that buying distro optical media is going out of style. OpenBSD has moved to download only for its installation media.
In my opinion it would make sense for Mr. Volkerding to offer downloads of Slackware and also provide links on the Slackware site for us to donate to him directly through his patreon and paypal accounts. I don't speak for Slackware.
 
Old 10-27-2021, 04:53 PM   #43
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I also like optical media and I regularly burn Slackware DVDs. I think that buying distro optical media is going out of style. OpenBSD has moved to download only for its installation media.
In my opinion it would make sense for Mr. Volkerding to offer downloads of Slackware and also provide links on the Slackware site for us to donate to him directly through his patreon and paypal accounts. I don't speak for Slackware.
I'll buy a USB loaded Slackware, and I do like the idea of Ventoy offering multiple iso booting. Oh well, if there is no bluray, I can always burn my own, because I still have 25GB or a double layered 50GB if I want to create my own custom Slackware with ready-to-install extra goodies from slackbuilds.
 
Old 10-27-2021, 05:11 PM   #44
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Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet.
 
Old 10-27-2021, 05:46 PM   #45
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Slackware philosophy says: KISS. (I heard that too much in military, and prefer just dropping the second S, out of the same principle: KIS is even simpler than KISS).

Unfortunately, the linux ecosystem seems to be losing touch with this concept. In such a dynamic evergrowing ecosystem of libaries and firmwares to control the ever-growing ecosystem of devices, creating a stable snapshot is bound to be way more complicated than from when all it needed to do was control a drive, keyboard, and monitor. Now there's touchscreens, graphic tablets, drum machines, all the gaming input gadgets, zillions of wireless devices, bluetooth, 802.11, cellular--all the wired networking and fiber optic network stuff that most of us only hear about... there's ham radio modems; there's even linux-driven sex toys...

Of course, there's all the backends that get created to access these devices, as well as all the frontends that get created to access the backends.

And Slackware, in its stable form, is the distro where this all just works! That task is got to be way more complicated than even just five years ago in 2016 when 14.2 was stabilized.

Lucky for everyone here that P.V. and friends are committed to stabilizing this increasingly complex linux ecosystem, because if it was left to me, I would, for the sake of said KIS principle, only create a stable headless version of slackware15, and demote xorg, wayland, kde, xfce, etc. to 3rd party packages for the users to work out...

My point is, that I don't need my windows to do summersaults when I close them, or flutter away like birds: the only thing I need a windows manager for is viewing (and creating) bitmap images, vector images, animated images, and videos.

So, just my humble pov: the linux ecosystem evolves too rapidly to ever call it stable. Perhaps since linux has increased in complexity, slackware should do the reverse, and increase in simplicity by reducing the package base it has historically supported.

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