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gmgf 10-15-2021 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by LuckyCyborg (Post 6292323)
@USUARIONUEVO

It's a great thing that you try to find bugs on Plasma 5.23.x , but let's do not jump over horse... ;)

Please take note that in the next weeks, there will be 2 patch releases at one week interval, then another one after only 2 weeks.

IF you found something wrong, be kind to report that to KDE developers, to take a look.

I for one, for my daily usage, the Plasma 5.23 works perfectly. Heck, worked well even the Plasma 5.23 Beta.

Agreed, master ;)

USUARIONUEVO 10-15-2021 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by LuckyCyborg (Post 6292323)
@USUARIONUEVO

It's a great thing that you try to find bugs on Plasma 5.23.x , but let's do not jump over horse... ;)

Please take note that in the next weeks, there will be 2 patch releases at one week interval, then another one after only 2 weeks.

IF you found something wrong, be gentle to report to KDE developers, to take a look.

I for one, for my daily usage, the Plasma 5.23 works perfectly. Heck, worked well even the Plasma 5.23 Beta.

Yea , first fix in 1 week , two weeks the second ... i hope the first arrives as a big one numbers of issues fixed.

Sorry for noise , but is frustrating , when after 5 minutes of usage , see broken things , and of course i know , a million of different configs can made it , and issues arrives only for some especific config.

If some one want see what im talking , its very easy

click on desktop and configure to "as folder"
open dolphin , preferences , extensions, enable de servicemenu for "delete" on right click menu mouse
make new txt file on desktop , right click , and try use the "delete" option , ...does nothing.

the combined keys for the same action it works, then i suspect some in the servicemenu arrives changed.

USUARIONUEVO 10-15-2021 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by LuckyCyborg (Post 6292256)
Yep, this is yet another example how silly is for developers to make their applications to refuse to work as root, in the name of "security" .
Code:

# Disable the QtWebEngine's sandbox to make Konqueror and Falkon to work as root.
export QTWEBENGINE_DISABLE_SANDBOX=1

As bonus, will work also as root the Plasma5's web-browsers: Konqueror and Falkon

Thats very nice , probably exist to other componentes , i hate see dolphin mesaages "run as root ...." at least it starts he he he.

cwizardone 10-15-2021 12:20 PM

FWIW:
Did a fresh installation this morning using the latest Alien .iso with the "25th Anniversary edition of kde" and encountered a great of flickering when opening applications. It was most noticeable with VirtualBox, but it eventually calmed down. Switched to Xfce-4.16 and there has been no flickering of any kind.
Using the Nvidia-470.74 driver, BTW.
Tempted to go back to kde4 as I don't like kde5 or xfce-4.16, but recent upgrades to -current make it more and more difficult to keep kde4 running. To be expected, I guess... :)

USUARIONUEVO 10-15-2021 03:57 PM

Hi , as i think , downgrade plasma-desktop package to

plasma-desktop-5.22.5-x86_64-3

Fix my issues deleting files from desktop , but this is not desirable downgrade , now is time to see if i found where is the problem , and try find a patch , or report a bug.

LuckyCyborg 10-15-2021 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by USUARIONUEVO (Post 6292419)
Hi , as i think , downgrade plasma-desktop package to

plasma-desktop-5.22.5-x86_64-3

Fix my issues deleting files from desktop , but this is not desirable downgrade , now is time to see if i found where is the problem , and try find a patch , or report a bug.

I think that maybe you look at a wrong package.

WHAT IF there is a communication problem between Dolphin and the Plasma system? They talk over DBUS.

Maybe there should be patched Dolphin instead.

USUARIONUEVO 10-15-2021 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LuckyCyborg (Post 6292433)
I think that maybe you look at a wrong package.

WHAT IF there is a communication problem between Dolphin and the Plasma system? They talk over DBUS.

Maybe there should be patched Dolphin instead.

Im not 100% shure , but downgrade plasma-dektop-5.23 to 5.22 fix the issue , we have 2 ways , in all two is caused by plasma-dektop pkg , or incoming bug, or change something broke dolphin , same culprit for me.

The questions now is ... who need a patch/revert ?

plasma-destop pkg by bad change under code or dolphin for miss new part of plugin ?

I think in my experience , the problem is in plasma-desktop-5.23 (single pkg not entirely update)

Problem is out of dolphin , in a desktop file or folder ... no dolphin open and no operations from dophin to delete a file/folder under plain desktop.

USUARIONUEVO 10-15-2021 04:53 PM

I can perfectly delete files or folders inside a dolphin instance , problem is out ... im no repeat more times, problem is under PKG plasma-desktop-5.23-x86_64-1.txz ,im pretty sure.
NOT ALL ENTIRELY UPDATE , only a single pkg with name plasma-desktop , but is bad and undesirable downgrade cause this contains de plasma desktop CORE.

LuckyCyborg 10-15-2021 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by USUARIONUEVO (Post 6292437)
Im not 100% shure , but downgrade plasma-dektop-5.23 to 5.22 fix the issue , we have 2 ways , in all two is caused by plasma-dektop pkg , or incoming bug, or change something broke dolphin , same culprit for me.

The questions now is ... who need a patch/revert ?

plasma-destop pkg by bad change under code or dolphin for miss new part of plugin ?

I think in my experience , the problem is in plasma-desktop-5.23 (single pkg not entirely update)

Problem is out of dolphin , in a desktop file or folder ... no dolphin open and no operations from dophin to delete a file/folder under plain desktop.

What I want to say is that maybe they changed the DBUS API on Plasma 5.23 and this change was intentional, BUT the Dolphin is not yet adapted to this new API.

After all, our Dolphin is older than Plasma 5.23

USUARIONUEVO 10-15-2021 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LuckyCyborg (Post 6292443)
What I want to say is that maybe they changed the DBUS API on Plasma 5.23 and this change was intentional, BUT the Dolphin is not yet adapted to this new API.

All its possible man , im not want discussions , i prefer find culprit and solution.

I have live system , to make fast and easy tests , i can owerwrite file by file , to determine what file cause this issue and later determine who is the final culprit , cause perfectly possible a new feature break something in dolphin.

I need some time , because plugins need a relogin , when overwrited with other from ols pkg version.

If i copy content from

Code:

/usr/lib64/qt5/qml/org/kde/private/desktopcontainment/folder/*
5.22 overwriting 5.23 , i can delete files again , ...then is something in that plugin

I suspect fast , because the name of plugin suggest is used when desktop is configured as folder ...

Quote:

libfolderplugin.so
Thanks for your comments.

LuckyCyborg 10-15-2021 05:16 PM

Believe or not, I've just tested the deletion of a text file from Dolphin, after enabling the "delete" option, with all packages up2date and... surprise!

It works.

USUARIONUEVO 10-15-2021 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LuckyCyborg (Post 6292450)
Believe or not, I've just tested the deletion of a text file from Dolphin, after enabling the "delete" option, with all packages up2date and... surprise!

It works.

surprise , you no understand nothing ...

put out dolphin to the equation ,

ON DESKTOP RIGHT CLICK , on configuration , select desktop "as folder"
then , WITH DESKTOP AS FOLDER , create a new txt ..
try to delete txt file or folder or whatever from service menu ...NOT WORK.


see the picture .........im IN DESKTOP , NO DOLPHIN ....

step 1 configure desktop as folder
step 2 select desktop folder
step 3 create txt file or new fodler ON DESKTOP AND TRY DELETE

LuckyCyborg 10-15-2021 05:53 PM

Well, even "IN DESKTOP , NO DOLPHIN" the file is deleted too.

BUT, kinda strange, you should keep SHIFT pressed while clicking on Delete option from menu.

USUARIONUEVO 10-15-2021 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LuckyCyborg (Post 6292461)
Well, even "IN DESKTOP , NO DOLPHIN" the file is deleted too.

BUT, kinda strange, you should keep SHIFT pressed while clicking on Delete option from menu.

never i need press keys , servicemenu , works ever , ... but now not work.

if press key conbination file is deleted , thats the strange thing , conbined keys works, but servicemnu not.

you are now , in the way

I can ever delete files , folder or whatever from my desktop , using the simple servicemenu , now its broken , and as i say , im pretty sure dolphin is not culprit ,cause no interaction on a plain desktop servicemenu.

If you open dolphin , and navigate to desktop under dolphin , you can delete , under dolphin works , under desktop is break.


From the pkg plasma-desktop , all point to this plugin ----> libfolderplugin.so

because my desktop configuration is "as folder"

If downgrade to plasma-desktop-5.22.5-3 from cumulative archieve , i can delete files using the regular servicemenu as ever , but then , i downgrade plasma core to 5.22.5 and as i say is not desirable downgrade cause change all core.

desirable way ,is find commit causeing this , but is hard.

LuckyCyborg 10-15-2021 06:04 PM

Okay, so you hit: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=442765

No fix known, yet.

I for one, I have never put files on Desktop, that's why I did not observed this.

BTW, what advantage you have by putting files on Desktop? :D


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