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Old 11-14-2017, 06:34 AM   #1
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How lond will it take for distros to change firefox


It is just a simple questions as the new FireFox will be hitting the wild in a few hours time as I have not gotten hit with the update yet.

What I would like to know is the premade download distros how long do you think for them to start using FireFox Q out of the box. Do you think it will happen or will they use the ESR as long as its there?


btw I think the new fox may even be better for a raspberry pi now as well
 
Old 11-14-2017, 10:08 AM   #2
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This is heavily dependent on the distribution, and the load on and priority list of, the maintainers.
It is not reasonable to expect them all to have the latest version the day after release. If they have someone dedicated to just browser updates, then it will come sooner. If it is one or three guys doing most of the work, prepare to wait.
 
Old 11-14-2017, 10:26 AM   #3
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Most distros are packaged with set versions of things at whatever version of the distro. They then usually offer ways to upgrade to later packages they've made available. The next minor or major release version of the distro is apt to have newer versions of packages.

Depending on the distro they may not even install Firefox by default - IceWeasel was forked because some folks didn't like the logo requirements of Firefox itself.

They may also only update for other packages supported within the distro version. RHEL for example starts usually with base upstream packages then backports bug and security fixes (and occasionally enhancements) into the original upstream they started with and add their own extended versioning. They do this to avoid dependency conflicts with other packages in the distro.
 
Old 11-14-2017, 03:46 PM   #4
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Firefox and Chromium will remains, because they are are like Google (Android), MS,... big companies.
They rule the Internet
 
Old 11-14-2017, 09:47 PM   #5
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Firefox and Chromium will remains, because they are are like Google (Android), MS,... big companies.
They rule the Internet
No, they actually do not. Those are just HTTP/HTTPS clients and they only rule the majority of desktop client space in the browser category. AND there are several other options if those fail you. (Opera, for example.) The internet was a major resource BEFORE the world wide web (html).

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Old 11-14-2017, 09:54 PM   #6
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Mozilla Corporation is not even a company, except in a legal sense. It wholly owned by the non-profit Mozilla Foundation.
 
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Old 11-14-2017, 10:25 PM   #7
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As to the OP's direct question, it depends on the distro. Bleeding edge distro's like Fedora and Arch you can be reasonably sure will have it within a few days, if not less than a whole day.

More...conservative distro's like Debian stable will literally be YEARS before 57 gets into it (actually, it never will, the current 52 ESR will be replaced by 59 ESR, 57 will never actually be in debian stable).
 
Old 11-15-2017, 02:16 PM   #8
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As to the OP's direct question, it depends on the distro. Bleeding edge distro's like Fedora and Arch you can be reasonably sure will have it within a few days, if not less than a whole day.

More...conservative distro's like Debian stable will literally be YEARS before 57 gets into it (actually, it never will, the current 52 ESR will be replaced by 59 ESR, 57 will never actually be in debian stable).
It is rather better to give try to other alternatives, such as midori, netsurf, elinks, w3m, links2, dillo,... evtl. konqueror.
 
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Depends upon your preferences. I like uMatrix, so a browser that the umatrix plugin doesn't function for me is a non-starter (not a fan of adblock), so most of the ones you quoted are already no-go's to me.

Beyond that, what distro do you run? That's probably the biggest influence, as to how easily it can be added instead of using alternatives. I imagine most will have the ability to get it installed within a week, even if it's not part of the "primary" updates (like how I have Debian, apt-pinning to get it from SID on Debian/Q4OS without affecting any other packages).
 
  


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