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Old 04-19-2024, 06:34 PM   #1
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Rant/Business: Linux vs. Technology... Linux Desktop can't keep up/Linux Desktop Devs need new hardware


Business Rant: Linux vs. Technology... Linux Desktop can't keep up/Linux Desktop Devs need new hardware
Opinion: Draft... mini RFP: Linux Desktop Devs need new hardware?(or Linux General/Business rant)
edited: 2000 to 2020, spelling


Noticed I hadn't done Linux installs in awhile. Then I noticed problems for the Linux community as a whole. Felt need to rant about Linux Desktops and business

Evidence of Obsolete main Linux Distro's
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I. The boot media: when I went to install much of the 'install boot media' to USB. it was in iso format and not an Hard-Drive image.
II. 4K support - The fonts on boot were tiny/unreadable.
III. UEFI -standard From 15 years ago... being phased in... happy/dealing with it... legacy support was supposed to end in 2020...

Business Reasons not adopt New hardware/software:
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A. Majority of people don't need.
B. Limited income.
C. old stuff still works.
D. newer stuff so education needed.

Reasons People forced to adopt New hardware/software:
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1. Destroying old physical hardware media... or breaks...
2. forcing online activation.
3. friend zones... keep up with Jonses
4. Linux old no boot
5. security reasons good and bad...

Business Reasons keep old hardware
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V. CBA/ROI money
X. Tasks static
Y. Learning Beginning Education
Z. Can gain new ideas

SOLUTIONS FIX: How get Linux Desktop Devs to use/have new hardware to develop
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ALPHA: Get money from marketing etc.
BRAVO: Fine monopolistic gatekeepers
CHARLIE: Change the system
DELTA: ...Do Unto others... (matt.)...
ECHO: Seek advice elderly

Last edited by rico001; 04-20-2024 at 12:23 PM. Reason: Linux General/Business rant
 
Old 04-19-2024, 07:26 PM   #2
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It is unclear if you have a point, conclusion, or even any solid observations to communicate.
Your meaning is unclear, and your spelling does not help you.
I presume for "SOLUUTIONS" you intended "solutions", yes?

Boot media comment: RE ISOs. When I purchase a new license and image for Windows, it arrives as an ISO. Same with most distributions of Linux, BSD, and other Unix like operating systems. What comes as a disk image and why would I care?

4K support: RE: Tiny text? I do not have the issue, but if I did I would force the mode to a resolution that made it easier to read. Have you tried that? (Or a magnifying glass?)

About UEFI. I am not sure what you mean. All of my Linux distributions are EFI compatible. I often turn it off to avoid the vulnerabilities of EFI and avoid wasting space on a DOS partition, but where I leave it on it just works. Does it bother you?

Things get even less clear as it goes on. Perhaps you could provide an annotated or improved version.
 
Old 04-19-2024, 08:44 PM   #3
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I have absolutely no idea what you're trying to say.
 
Old 04-20-2024, 12:06 PM   #4
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tried to update.

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I have absolutely no idea what you're trying to say.
Linux Desktop is obsolete, incompatible. Made changes to mini request for proposal/plan (outline format so easier and not: TLDR --I'm not getting paid to write this). (age doesn't matter imho., can still keep backwards compatibility) How to Improve function/usability, plan for future, look to heaven. Examples: Quantum, biological; analog, light, nueral networks, a.i. computers. A movie with bio computers, maybe R rated, Existenz, from Canada... movie about weird computer... inception.

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Old 04-20-2024, 12:47 PM   #5
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https://www.tecmint.com/open-source-...ftwares-linux/

While on the other hand others scream about keeping ai out of their linux terminal.

Pogo Linux is in the liquid computer business.

Quote:
Can a quantum computer run Linux?
In the very same way that regular computers need an operating system, quantum computers need one too. However, there is no quantum version of Windows, IOS or Linux.
Cranky old fart here who still runs breaker ignition in his motorcycles. Because easier to fix is why. Still takes me from point a to b.

https://i.postimg.cc/VNN190B7/first-try.jpg

That is my rant and I am sticking to it.
 
Old 04-20-2024, 07:17 PM   #6
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https://www.tecmint.com/open-source-...ftwares-linux/

While on the other hand others scream about keeping ai out of their linux terminal.

Pogo Linux is in the liquid computer business.



Cranky old fart here who still runs breaker ignition in his motorcycles. Because easier to fix is why. Still takes me from point a to b.

https://i.postimg.cc/VNN190B7/first-try.jpg

That is my rant and I am sticking to it.
Old farts are the ones with a RIGHT to rant!
That said, there are more options for different desktops and user choice in desktop and dektop configuration with Linux than any other operating system I know. (And I know a LOT! Also an old fart and been doing this stuff since 1969.)

I discovered FLUXBOX back in the '90s, and have used it as a fallback desktop ever since. Right now running PLASMA because I want to play with Wayland and nothing plays with Wayland better than PLASMA right now.

If you don't like your desktop, just try a different one. They are as common as Mopeds in Paris!
 
Old 04-20-2024, 09:44 PM   #7
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I can still remember when I was just cutting my Linux teeth. I was always easily swayed into the distribution hop like a maniac this only caused me to become Moore and more likely to become less and less likely to pick a distribution and sticking with it. This was mainly because I was still in Middle,High (school) college and in the secondary school environment where I was basically required to use M$ products. It wasn't until around w Windows 8 or 10 came around that I started really reevaluating my attitudes regarding my choices when it comes to my choices in relation to which operating system that I choose to use in my daily computing life.
 
Old 04-20-2024, 10:36 PM   #8
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Quote:
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Linux Desktop is obsolete, incompatible.
There are Linux desktops that are the most modern and capable (and compatible) desktops that exist.
There are also some that are obsolete. (Some are my FAVORITES!)
It is unclear what bothers you about Linux desktops, or which ones you consider problematic.
Which one are you using that is driving you crazy?
 
Old 04-21-2024, 07:46 AM   #9
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OP gave me a headache! List but no real rant or defense of one's positions. Bait! Only thing logical was to edit the post to correct spelling errors.

So I got hooked..
 
Old 04-22-2024, 06:58 AM   #10
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In the real world that I still live in (and support) every day, there is a mix. Linux, Windows, MacOS (OS/X), "robot computer," midrange, and mainframe. Virtualization and "real iron."

Some of the technology feels "incredibly old," like RPG, while some of it is quite new. But in every case it is: "a tool for a job," and that tool (still ...) works.

Economically speaking, you do not "automatically discard and replace" anything that is running your business successfully. Even when the latest young salesman shows up and insists that you should (or must). Because the costs of change – any change – are enormous. ("Yes, you cost money. A lot(!) of money." 'Seven [senior ...] programmers' costs more than a million dollars a year.)

Linux moved very successfully into this world, I think, for two reasons: (1) "it runs on damned near everything," and thus became a lingua franca for many important multi-platform projects. And (2) "the Web and the Cloud," where it is able to run very efficiently and "scales-up well." Many corporations pay for the system just as they pay for everything else. They adopted it because it works very well for what they were trying to do. (Which is also what they did, and do, for everything else that they now run.)

So – I honestly cannot understand this "rant."

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Old 04-22-2024, 09:30 AM   #11
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While my anecdote has nothing to do with Linux you can not always say if your business is running successfully that it is always wrong to discard and replace. The failure of US Steel and other big steel companies was that they would not spend the money to update and thought the smaller mills elsewhere could not do what they were doing. The old technology forges were to inefficient.

I think there always has been a bit of a disconnect between software developers and users. The developers write a program with features they think users wants but not what they really want, nor can please 100% of the users 100% of the time.
 
Old 04-22-2024, 09:53 AM   #12
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perfect for ranting, otherwise just plain wrong.
 
  


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