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Old 07-26-2004, 11:44 PM   #1
RobStan486
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Unhappy Found modem on boot, but not on system?? Next Move?


Hi there, this is how far I have got. A new system (AMD2400, 256MBDDR, MSIKM4M, WD 40GB7200 HDD). 4 days ago was my first day with RedHat, 3CD instalation on single HDD partition, went easy enough, but unable to 'find' internal PCI modem NetComm InModem 56V.92, /V.90, chipset? doesnt say?, Being new to RedHad it sort of blew my mind not knowing where to find anything, all so "strange", no manual to show where to find settings, drivers, etc, so had two days of web search, found heaps, but understood little. Saw a lot of suggestions that external modem was the way to go. I bought a SwanSmart Turbo, it said "speed matters" so I thought that was a good sign? - Tried that, removed old modem on boot, installed new ext. modem, could not work it out. I came to the conclusion that any "dummy" should be able to put in a darn modem, it should not take 48 hours!. I put in the CD Drive Knoppix KDE, No Install, and 10 minutes later I had the modem working fine, the ext. modem. OK, so I do a new install of Red HAt again, and slowly set it up. Once set up, I shut down & connected the ext. modem, it asked if I wanted to install the new modem - YES, then I go to internet connection Wizard, > Device type > select modem, & then up comes a message probing for modem, no modem found on system - Ahhhhh!! - I do not know my way around to go to the next step? - what do I check now? are there any recommended step by step tutorials that show this, - any help will be greatly appreciated
 
Old 07-27-2004, 01:43 AM   #2
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You don't actually have to "install" an external modem. You just plug it in and use it. All you have to do it tell the program using the modem which port it's on (COM1 = /dev/ttyS0, COM2 = /dev/ttyS1). Which app are you using that utilises the modem?
 
Old 07-27-2004, 02:14 AM   #3
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Hi there, thank you so much for checking out my problem.

>All you have to do it tell the program using the modem which port it's on (COM1 = /dev/ttyS0, >COM2 = /dev/ttyS1). Which app are you using that utilises the modem?

This sounds so simple, - if you know how? LOL.

I am using Red Hat 9, It there a way that I have to 'register' the modem with this? - I thought this was done by the wizard? - but like I said, the wizard does not 'see' the modem, so I thought there might be something else.

I have Mozzila as the browser, should there be a setting here somewhere to point to the modem?

In windows there is the 'network connections' to set up a new modem, is there a similar thing with Red Hat?

Where do I look to find this? COM1 = /dev/ttyS0, COM2 = /dev/ttyS1


I go to look in the /dev folder & there is an error: - Nautalis can not open all the folders?

I am sorry, but being 100% new to this OS, I don't know where to find things, Where/how do I find the COM port settings?
 
Old 07-27-2004, 05:24 AM   #4
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I am using Red Hat 9, It there a way that I have to 'register' the modem with this? - I thought this was done by the wizard? - but like I said, the wizard does not 'see' the modem, so I thought there might be something else.
You don't have to register anything. You just tell the app using the modem which port to use. I don't know anything about the wizard since I don't use Red Hat but I suspect that it's trying to find a driver for it - which you don't need.

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I have Mozzila as the browser, should there be a setting here somewhere to point to the modem?
No you don't point the browser to the port. It's just like in Windows where you used "Dial-up Networking" to connect to your ISP, in Linux you have to use an equivalent program. Many such programs exist but they are mostly just front ends for pon or wvdial (both command-line driven). If you're using KDE then there's a graphical app called kppp and for Gnome there's gkdial. Have a look around for any of those programs and choose which one you want to use. I kind of liked pon in my dial up days.

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Where do I look to find this? COM1 = /dev/ttyS0, COM2 = /dev/ttyS1
You don't find the whole thing. I was just telling you the difference in terminology between windows and Unix. What was called "COM1" in windows, is called "/dev/ttys0" in Linux. "COM2" is "/dev/ttyS1". So, you have to report to the dial up app which port the modem is on.

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I go to look in the /dev folder & there is an error: - Nautalis can not open all the folders?
See above. The files in /dev are not regular files but they are made to appear so. They correspond to various devices (like serial ports, for example). Hence, don't try to "open" them.

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I am sorry, but being 100% new to this OS, I don't know where to find things, Where/how do I find the COM port settings?
You'll have to clarify this question. Are you asking how do you find out which port the modem is connected to? It's not too hard. There are only two. If it's not /dev/ttyS0 then it's /dev/ttyS1. Sometimes there exists a symlink (the equivalent of a Windows "shortcut") in /dev called "modem" which points to either ttyS0 or ttyS1. That way you can point your dial up app to /dev/modem instead which can be easier to remember/comprehend.

Last edited by adz; 07-27-2004 at 05:25 AM.
 
Old 07-27-2004, 05:35 AM   #5
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Thank you so much for that, I am determined to get this sorted out, so I will back with some results one way ot the other. -- appreciate your advice/coments big time!. Thanks again.
 
Old 07-31-2004, 08:30 PM   #6
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Hi

Sounds like the fun i had when i installed red hat 9. unfortunately with me being new to linux at the time i found it hard to understand just exactly what i was supposed to be doing, not that there was a shortage of info, it just wasn't basic enough for me to understand. it took me 6 week to work out to use my internal modem. So i wrote a How-To for absolute beginners, and i mean absolute begginers. i wrote it step by step, point to this, type in that, link this to that etc. if you want a copy e-amil me at

lee.hildred@jcu.edu.au

and i'll attach you a copy. it has all the relevent links for various files needed. Please note that this is for an internal modem not external and on Red Hat 9. I've given several folk copies of this document, all have had success. i hope this will be of help.
regards
GT
Ps. i can now have an internal modem working in under an hour, with the right source files and modules.
 
Old 07-31-2004, 09:21 PM   #7
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I just realised everyone in this thread is an Aussie. Luckily no South Africans because those Boks got NAILED!
 
Old 08-01-2004, 10:36 PM   #8
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Just a quick follow up guys, thanks for the notes so far, about once a day I get some more strength back to go back to my problem, keep thinking I am missing something so simple Ahhhhg- but a nice surprise to find that message from globeeTrotter - thanks.

I have tried all the tty00 etc. combinations, but when I go to activate that process just does not end?

Well, in a day or two I will have this beast singing, I just have to wait for some mail, will let you know how I go.
 
Old 08-03-2004, 02:16 PM   #9
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You can refer to my posts about the same and similar problems. Still I do not know WHAT IS THE MECHANISM for my things to work. In fact, in my case modem would work only in my first session after installation. I do not know which stone was kept unturned by me but nothing helped. And I am mad after Linux to learn it. So, what I did in my current installation is the following.

First, I chose my ethernet not to start at startup automatically. (I have left to learn Networking concept through Linux).
After installation the kudzu told me that my modem was removed and it gave three option. I chose the last option "Do nothing".

I connected through KPPP (By typing KPPP in the shell) it brought me an intuitive session to setup my connection. I played safe and accepted almost everything default, except the username etc. Now everytime I start my system with Linux, Kudzu turns up and I choose "Do nothing" everytime. The things work pretty well now.

Many people suggested me "su"
many suggested to create lock file and to handle it.
Many told me how to play with script.

All such things came up in the generous help by the forum friends here. But unfortunately, nothing worked. Presently, I am doing without my LAN on Linux. I connect to my lan using Win98SE.

But after all, Linux (though not at all intuitive) is a nice experience.

I hope this helps you.

Love

Dinesh
 
Old 08-03-2004, 06:06 PM   #10
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MODEM & REDHAT9

I MAILED YOU GLOBE ,AN EMAIL ASKING FOR A COPY OF THAT DETAILED INSTRUCTIONS ABOUT HOW TO .I HOPE I GET IT SOON.
THANX INDEED.
 
Old 08-03-2004, 06:40 PM   #11
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What's with the shouting?
 
Old 08-03-2004, 06:50 PM   #12
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thanx adz for prompt reply.
what are the exact and detailed steps to make my internal motorola sm56 voice modem operative with red hat9 linux .Although i have installed the driver for recognition and did my trials but always when i ckick activate i don't get response.
thanks again
regards
 
  


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