Yes, they run out of the RAM.

But to run it in RAM only (PUPMODE=5 in /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE) does mean a different thing. It means to run it without to use a save file and/or save directory (as the new ones offer). I have two Puppy Linux wrappers (T.O.P.L.E.S.S. and N.E.M.E.S.I.S., both to be found partly at the murga forum) which gives ability to my Puppy builds to modify/customize them at boot up process by the use of simple text based .cfg files.

So I can run them either in original shape (just as downloaded) or in a complete different setup. E.g.: the welcome first boot splash plus the personal settings popup can be suppressed just by such .cfg file and its settings.

In the kernel line of the boot menu entry of menu.lst (I'm using grub4dos as the boot loader) I can setup not only the keyboard and the language to be used, but also the timezone just by submitting ptimezone=Berlin in that line.

In such .cfg file I can define locations to make symbolic links to, so my /root/my-documents points to e.g. /mnt/sda1/Dateien after booting into X. There's also some settings sub-directories covered by directory */N.E.M.E.S.I.S. inside of the location where the puppy_ABC_XXX.sfs is stored. These directories are examined at boot. Everything found e.g. in such sub-directoy HOME will be sym-linked to /root. Everything found e.g. in sub-directory config will be sym-linked to /root/.config.

That's how I store things permanently only that I want to be stored, e.g. the Geany settings etc.pp.

Btw.: some of these features are included into my new LazY Puppy: Art Studio 64

RE: RSH, Everyone

WHOA!! Look, I'm NOT criticizing. I understand what your referencing. All I said was that I thought all "puppy"'s ran out of/through RAM.(I get it) As far as the persistence, and I'll make this clear, I am aware that Xenialpup 7.5 offers "persistence" when you attempt to log-out/shut down after a session. What I'm trying to do is go into the "save" file and permanently delete some of the "files" that were put there for it, very quickly, fills up the allotted space devoted to "save" file. I can find the file, I just couldn't figure out how to access, then delete, some of the files in it. Truth is, once I found and opened the file, I couldn't find any of the files I wanted to delete. OK, I have things to learn/understand! BEFORE any of us "go to war", you must understand I'm not bitchin. I am trying puppy for the first time and I know I've got some things to learn/understand. I'm NOT complaining about it's speed or the lack thereof, in any way. Puppy is, IMO, operating as I expect it should. I did have a problem getting ppapi installed,(opera browser) but that's no longer an issue for I'll just use PaleMoon, where the "flash" works properly. Once again....I'm learning! EVERYONE, THANK YOU for contributing to this thread!! And I'll say this again, I'm not interested in trying, yet again, another O.S. Give me time to "figure out" puppy, right now, I'm not dissatisfied with it. I hope we can all get back to a more civil attitude concerning this thread and it's questions. BUT, EVERYONE, me included, has to tone it down. Unfortunately, I'm having the same issue at another forum, although at that forum, someone stepped way over, what I consider, "bounds". I don't think that's happened here, I think, here, we just misunderstood and/or misinterpreted some of the "language", that's all.

KUDOS

No idea what you're talking about; no one is 'going to war', or saying anything rude to you. But it's kind of ironic that you come back here, after posting this just last week:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtop...021907#1021907

If the people here are so rude/nasty/sarcastic and 'go to war'...why continue to post here? Honestly, you've been asking about running from USB with persistence/'live' for quite some time now, but seem to get your feelings hurt if you're asked questions, or given an answer you don't like.

RE: TBOne;

Well, if you have 'no idea" what I'm talking about, then why would you respond? This is just what I'm talking about. I wanted to stop this before it get started and it surely seems it was headed in that direction. i.e thus your responding...misunderstanding and/or misinterpretation. Again, I said "before we go to war" not "this is war". And I didn't accuse anyone of being rude...yet!!! Again, what I said...misinterpretation/misunderstanding. Clearly, it sounds to me as if YOUR the one with the 'hurt" feelings for you didn't like it that I questioned YOUR response, or that I gave a response YOU didn't like. I clearly explained everything. Many times, in the past, I've checked the "did you find this post helpful" and will do so again when I get helpful info. I've even went as far as personally THANKING certain individuals. I checked the "link" you mentioned and I have to wonder/question what YOUR referring to? The only thing I can say about that thread is that towards the latter part of it, the gist of the conversations didn't concern me. But, that's OK, I didn't have a problem with it. OK, here's this...and I think it denotes my "misunderstanding/misinterpretation"...my last post on the link you provided was a month ago...not last week. OK, let's do this...if you have any pertinent information concerning "adding persistence" then forward it. If I've hurt your feelings, once again, then don't respond. Pretty simple, pretty clear.

Because you're going on about folks 'going to war', etc., and no one has said anything to even start going down that road. What I have no idea about is what, exactly YOU are talking about, because your assertion makes little sense in the context of this thread.
Really?? Then why does your last post have a date of "Posted: Fri 22 Mar 2019 14:41" at the top??? Which is certainly not a month ago. The 22nd to the 27th is five days, isn't it??? Isn't five days ago "last week"???
Yes, the pertinent information remains the same: follow the instructions and advice you've been given repeatedly. There are still instructions for installing to a USB stick on most distros websites, that can be done on Windows, Mac, or Linux. Follow them. Mkusb and other utilities exist to do this as well, as you've been told; use those and follow THOSE instructions. Pretty simple, pretty clear.

You are not understanding what you're told regarding the difference between running 'live' and doing a persistent install to a thumbdrive.

And for someone who has been running an OS from a thumbdrive for YEARS now: https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...tc-4175538574/

You then want to argue about folks not knowing what they're doing, giving you bad advice, or just saying they're wrong, when you say you don't have the answers, and it's not just with this topic, but others:
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ml#post5819934
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...6/#post5973951 (funny, you complain about the Puppy form here, and LQ over there?)

Not sure what you expect.

@69Rixter

I didn't take your post/comment as criticism and I just replied to explain the difference between to run of the RAM and to run in RAM only. In addition I explained how I store things for some persistence.

In both cases

- running with a save file or save folder
- running without save file or save folder

Puppy runs of the RAM or "through RAM".
But only without a save file and/or save folder it runs in RAM only.

Also this reply is not meant to be offended. Just trying to spread some clearance.

Keep ing don't try to avoid the learning curve!

Puppy is the best OS I've ever used and I personally don't want to use any other OS anymore!

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@69Rixter

And for the persistence:

- to remove files from the save file it is recommended to boot Puppy in PUPMODE=5 -so, RAM only- (or other: do not load the save file at boot, you can do this by submitting pfix=ram in the kernel line of the boot menu entry in menu.lst e.g.)
- when successful booted into X just left-click the save file and it will open a window showing its content
- assuming you are using a JWM/Rox-Filer Puppy there's the "eye" in the window's toolbar
- left-click it to make invisible files and folders visible (these ones having a leading dot in its file names)
- now you should be able to find your files to be removed

Often it is the browser (somewhere in /root/.***) responsible for filling up the save file.

You can just move that browser cache and stuff directory to a ext partition (best would be your home partition if ext) and sym-link it back to /root or its originated location.

It shouldn't hurt your save file again anymore.

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Hey linus72:

With all due respect, I've believe I've already stated I'm not interested in trying another O.S. I'm learning puppy and I think it's all I want(for now). Yes, I'm still running LM 19.1X from a pendrive and it will be fine once I get the persistence. I believe I've found the procedure to do so(?). Want to THANK YOU for all your previous help!!

...which you could have done had you followed any one of the MANY how-to guides you could find and have been given. Even this one, from a few days ago:
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=275337

...where there was an ENTIRE THREAD with procedures that work. Where you posted at the bottom about being 'confused'. And your behavior isn't limited to this forum, apparently:
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtop...13595#p1613595
You even got the mkusb advice (you know, what you 'found' after hours and hours of arduous searching) link **LAST YEAR**:
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtop...rt=20#p1471608

and agan here, twice...yet still are 'confused'??? Glad 'you found' it after having it given to you multiple times. Congratulations.