MDK 10.1 to Mandriva 2005 LE: upgrade or clean install?

tolstyi · 05-26-2005, 09:20 AM

I apologize if this questions has already been posted. I am currently running MDK 10.1 and would like to upgrade to the latest release. Would you recommend a clean install (I'd prefer not to go through that) or would an upgrad e work ok?

RySk8er30 · 05-26-2005, 10:03 AM

I just did an upgrade from Mandrake 10.1 to Mandriva 2005LE last night. Everything is running smoothly. One thing I'd suggest is making a backup to your /etc directory. I needed to add a line to the /etc/modprobe.conf to get my sound card working (in 10.1) and that line was removed after I upgraded. Also, the upgrade fixed two problems I was having (CDs weren't mounting and Alsaplayer was getting a segmentation fault).

tolstyi · 05-26-2005, 10:17 AM

thanks for your input!

xavierh · 05-26-2005, 01:29 PM

I also did an upgrade from 10.1 to Mandrive LE 2005 with no issues...

tolstyi · 05-28-2005, 08:20 PM

I updated to Mandriva 2005 LE without any problems. The only thing I had to do is adjust fonts. None of the files in my home directory were lost and even desktop background came through the way it was in MDK 10.1 Great job by Mandriva developers to put together an easy to use distro!

dolphans1 · 05-30-2005, 12:48 AM

Hey Tolstyi,

Can you give me a step by step what you did when you upgraded? Did you format any of your particians to save your files?

d-1

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Originally posted by tolstyi
I updated to Mandriva 2005 LE without any problems. The only thing I had to do is adjust fonts. None of the files in my home directory were lost and even desktop background came through the way it was in MDK 10.1 Great job by Mandriva developers to put together an easy to use distro!

samael26 · 05-30-2005, 02:58 AM

Basically you don't need to format anything, provided you have
separate partitions, at least one for root (where the new OS will install), one for swap, one for your home directory.
LE 2005 will install on your root parttion, enabling you to keep your personal files untouched.
I had to re-format everything from 10.1 to LE 2005, because Firefox would not install correctly and made a mess of it all.
Hope it will work okay for you
cheers

dolphans1 · 05-30-2005, 10:47 AM

Thanks I am downloading Mandriva CD ISO and I hate doing this because I really liked the way Mandrake 10.1 Community was setup. It was perfect until I messed and fooled around trying to fix kopete.

If it ain't broke don't fix it......

d-1

Quote:

Originally posted by samael26
Basically you don't need to format anything, provided you have
separate partitions, at least one for root (where the new OS will install), one for swap, one for your home directory.
LE 2005 will install on your root parttion, enabling you to keep your personal files untouched.
I had to re-format everything from 10.1 to LE 2005, because Firefox would not install correctly and made a mess of it all.
Hope it will work okay for you
cheers

elyk1212 · 07-26-2005, 01:29 PM

I found a lot of bugs in: Mandrake 10.1 Community. I switched to 10.1 Official and all seemed well (at leat as far as the magnitude of errors). One thing is, I could not get Kdevelope to work and I could not get QT Designer to work. Kdevelop would crash with :

Code:

QMetaObject::findSignal:KFileDetailView: Conflict with QListView::doubleClicked(QListViewItem*,const QPoint&,int)
kdecore (KAccel): WARNING: KKeySequence::init( seq ): key[0] is null.
kdecore (KAccel): WARNING: KKeySequence::init( seq ): key[0] is null.
fun: f2()
bar2 called
KCrash: Application 'kdevelop' crashing...

Could be due to the QT library versions. Anyone have this same issue? After I had this, I decided to try upgrading to 10.2. I am doing so with urpmi after pointing this to a 10.2 package resource.

I am crossing my fingers, any suggestions.

elyk1212 · 07-27-2005, 04:13 PM

Currently I am having an issue with kontact crashing. After seeing this, I did a clean install and formated root '/', but left the home dir etc.

I am STILL having this issue. Workaround was to start Kmail first, then kontact.

Here is the description of the issue:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...33#post1768933

Latem · 07-28-2005, 12:37 PM

I always did upgrade installs. The first time I did it, after I started using Mandriva, I had a lot of problems, such as Qt Designer crashing, some other stuff crashing, and a lot of brok symlinks. Then I did urpmi --auto-select, and that fixed ALL of them. Since then, every time after an upgrade I immediatly setup a main and update repos, and do urpmi --auto-select. I strongly suggest that urpmi --auto-select is done after a clean install or an upgrade install, if you want a nice and stable system. Every time I upgraded, one problem i would always have is where my internet connection wouldn't stay configured, and every time I start the computer I would have to do the internet connection wizard and set it up. I use Rogers cable modem internet, with DHCP, and dynamic IP. Sometime urpmi --auto-select would fix that problem, sometime it wouldn't. If it doesn't what I do is go thru the internet connection wizard and set it up as LAN (which also works), and then restart the computer (the connection would work now), and then do configuration again properly. Then it works from then on. I know it's weird, but I read it in a forum somewhere. That's pretty much the only problem I had. I should mention that urpmi --auto-select is can take a while (I remember one time it was like 377 packages, 500+ mb), so I just leave it over night or something.

Latem

elyk1212 · 07-29-2005, 05:07 AM

So Kontact does not crash for you then? By the way, I did an urpmi update the second I installed the new version, well a few min after.

By the way, I am using KDE. Also, when I right click on files and chose a program to open the file, and select the 'remember application associated with this file type', it will say updating system settings. The bar will go to 100% and start all over again... an endless loop. So many bugs, I cannot even list them all. No one else noticed/has these?

I Have tried a upgrade and fresh install and both have the same issues. VERY frustrating. It is like the distro deployers do not test the code before issuing a release. Some of these bugs are VERY obvoius.

And if it is from parsing my home dir config files, really, a distro *should* make accomadations to parsing older config files. I guess I should only use mature releases. 10.1 was working fine, as I had work arounds for all its bugs

I guess I am going to have to try and compile KDE on my own. I hope I have all the required includes/libraries.

Latem · 07-29-2005, 08:06 AM

Nothing crashes on my system. (well, I think amaroK crashed on me once or twice, but that's it). I also use KDE. I use Kontact daily with 2 mailboxes, and works perfectly fine. I also do not get that infinite loop problem. I am sorry you are having these issues

.
I pretty much expect some problems after upgrading, but I don't really use Mandriva after upgrading it; just setup main, and update repos, then do urpmi --auto-select. I think urpmi --auto-select is different from update, because update just updates from the update repos. --auto-select updates everything on your system that has a newer package, which undoubtly there will be newer stuff in the main.

Good luck,
Latem

elyk1212 · 07-29-2005, 02:10 PM

Thanks for the input. I did do "uprmi --auto-select". I guess I was not specific enough, but yes, it was this command.

Did you keep all your old config files from 10.1?

This is so odd. I mean, I have the same binaries... Why would I have the infinite loop issue. Could be a config file parsing issue (only thing left to consider). Did you have trailing config files from a older distro (only 10- to 10.1 for me). By the way, what .kde file has file associations in it? I think it is part of Konqueror but I cannot find it in $HOME/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc.

BTW: I had to pull accounts from a backed up kmailrc config file and put them into the newer file in an attempt to transfer accounts. I should just use the GUI setup for this I guess. As it is, I am contemplating that those files are not parsed the same on the newer versions of kontact or kmail. (I did this manual transfer business after noticing that kontact would run, for the most part, after erasing the old kmailrc config file. So, it was a last resort kind of thing to save settings. It was thought that the issue was in the config part for filters, as there are new options on these in the new kmail version that are not present in Mandrake 10.1).

My Packages are:
Qt: 3.3.4
KDE: 3.3.2
KMail: 1.7.2
Kontact: 1.0.2

Can I get your package versions? Thanks for the help. Upgrades are a pain.

elyk1212 · 07-29-2005, 02:18 PM

Oh, one last thing. Kontact appears to run smooth as root with no set up filters or accounts (I never used Kontact as root on previous distros, so no config files existed).