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Old 05-21-2008, 05:59 AM   #1
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Mandriva 2008 spring


Before updating this morning I has two options Mandrava 2008 Spring
Mandriva 2008 Failsafe

After updating I get two more options both desktop options
I can not find the difference between this 3 options.

Can any body tel me what why Mandriva did it in this way ?

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Old 05-21-2008, 06:52 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by ronlau9 View Post
Before updating this morning I has two options Mandrava 2008 Spring
Mandriva 2008 Failsafe

After updating I get two more options both desktop options
I can not find the difference between this 3 options.

Can any body tel me what why Mandriva did it in this way ?

regards

ron
There was a new kernel update that was part of the latest updates. look at your lilo or grub config files to see and if you use a /boot directory, look there.
 
Old 05-21-2008, 07:22 AM   #3
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Mandriva 2008 Spring is the new kernel.

Mandriva 2008 is the old kernel

Failsafe is, um, failsafe.

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Old 05-21-2008, 08:57 AM   #4
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Mandriva 2008 Spring was done as clean install GlennsPref so why should it give me Mandriva 2008 that should be back in
the past not logical Failsafe is used in all my distros so it is rather common knowledge
But the question is why two desktops option besides Mandriva 2008 Spring
I hope that some body could explain that to me ?


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Old 05-21-2008, 11:41 AM   #5
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The two additional options are the previous kernel and the new kernel, which are added to give you the option of using either. The default Mandriva option will boot the new kernel, unless you select something else as the default.

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Old 05-21-2008, 06:57 PM   #6
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Hi, I didn' t realise it was a clean install.

Failsafe is like safe-mode, booting to a dos prompt in M$win.

You have the bare neccessities to reconfigure your system, if you know how to use the tools available.

No memory hogging apps to get in the way.

The first one will be a full blown boot to init 5 with everything loaded as it boots.

The second one is usually limited to a lower refresh/resolution rate for the display.

You can interrupt the boot process by pressing " i", you will be asked if you want each service loaded as it boots/starts.

If it were an upgrade you would have a similar situation, except with more options, namely, the old kernel,

in case you need to revert back, if the new one fails.

Note, this is probably directed to those of us who must trim the kernel to be as light as possible, sometimes a module is missed and the system gets broken, I can reboot with the old ver. and continue to customise/repair the new kernel.

Cheers, Glenn.

ps. if you go to to boot options, in MCC/system/boot(configure how your system starts) you may find the differences there. like screen size and colour. GlennW

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Old 05-21-2008, 07:01 PM   #7
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The other possibility is that the /boot partition was not formatted or a mandriva partition was found on the second harddisk.
 
Old 05-23-2008, 07:53 PM   #8
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ronlau9: Before the update you had a normal boot option and a failsafe option. As GlennsPref said, the failsafe one is to hopefully get the system started enough if something falls over and prevents the normal one starting properly.

Your update probably installed a new kernel version, giving you the new kernel as your normal boot option (and a failsafe option for it)
The third one is your previous kernel(in case the updated one has a problem).

If you post your /etc/grub/menu.lst, we can tell you more accurately what they are.

I had a bit of figuring out to do for that myself. Hope that's of use to you

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Old 05-24-2008, 12:49 AM   #9
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Nafan I just find it out there is in my boot 3 different kernel version with a different MNB.IMG
But know come the question MNB.IMG where did it stands for
Google does not helps out
But using the 3 different option does not give my any different

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Old 05-24-2008, 07:10 AM   #10
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It seems to be a 'Made by Mandriva' tag. Most of the rpms end in mdv2008.1.i586.rpm or mdv2008.1.noarch.rpm but all of the kernel-related rpms end in mnb1.i586.rpm and when they are installed, they get named to match.

I have kernel-laptop-latest-2.6.24.4-3mnb1.i586.rpm installed and it provides
vmlinuz-2.6.24.4-laptop-3mnb
initrd-2.6.24.4-laptop-3mnb.img

The initrd file contains some kernel modules to give the kernel a helping hand when it boots. It's a compressed cpio filesystem image (which earns it the .img suffix).

None of the options will provide a different system for you to use, but they may give different facilities to the rest of the system. Think of them as Windows XP's normal boot, and safe mode boot.
 
Old 05-24-2008, 07:49 AM   #11
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Kernel and some base system development is done in partnership with Turbo Linux. The partnership is referred to as Manbo. RPMs resulting from this partnership are suffixed .mnb to distinguish them from "pure" Mandriva packages which are suffixed .mdv.

Jim
 
  


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